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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #15 on: December 15, 2007, 12:20:35 AM »
do you know what your incident # is?  As a reference mine is 101765
Audio: Neumann KM 100> 20, 30, 40, 43 or 50 > V3 > MT II (love that M/S)
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2007, 01:00:28 AM »
do you know what your incident # is?  As a reference mine is 101765

I opened an incident on the web:  Incident ID - NA101919
Mics:  Microtech Gefell m200/M20/nBob Actives>PFA, CA-11
Pre's: USB Pre2, 1x V3, 2x V3 w/optimod, MP2, Church Ugly
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Playback: Grace m9xx->Sen HD 650, Fostex TH-X00, HIFIMAN HEXX
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2007, 05:14:36 AM »
IT IS A SEEMLESS SPLIT!!!!!!!!
also the split comes at 1.86 gigs 1:55:44.
Ye Ol' 2GB AKA 2.000.000.000 bytes? (same as in mt1)
Good that the split works.
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took 11 minutes 40 seconds to transfer 1.86 gig file.  much slower than the mt 1.
Not soo good...

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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2007, 08:09:17 AM »
has anyone tried 24/96 with a ua5 or other box?
i am sure it would do the same "header" error but just to confirm its not the v3 signal that it has trouble with in some way
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2007, 08:24:42 AM »
...blanking a 4GB card right now to try 24/96 from the FR-2 (MD5s taking forever on the ancient DAW)
will report back within this post

I was testing the playback from this same 4GB card last night into the HD-600 Sennheisers and was reasonably impressed.  I did have to crank it to near top volume, but was certainly usable for casual playback.
The Senns are powerdogs to be sure.   
Not sure about what would happen at a show with the Ety's and a 110db PA blasting me...

MKWTools wrote the md5 back to the CF   ;D  ....copying the card to the DAW and another MD5 to go...

[Update]
The MD5s don't match on the transfer...
It may be my PCI-USB card, which is a a combi Firewire/USB cheapo
Using MTII USB2.0

I calculated with winMD5Sum and MKWTools and have four different checksums!    :P

Still can't dump the card, so I cannot test the 24/96 yet

I'm trying a transfer to the laptop now

[EDIT]
The MD5s we fine on the USB copy of the files using the laptop 

OK, so it was the USB/PCI card, but that's hanging my audio card      :P
Hapless today, no 24/96 files on the FR-2 to use and a bunch of household stuff to do.

Going full-throttle to the live test tonight, maybe to bring back two recordings to compare and the chance to do a 24/96 SPDIF transfer recording 24/96 out of the FR-2 (I hope)
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2007, 05:27:03 PM »
Anyone heard from M-Audio about this yet?
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2007, 10:29:48 AM »
I've received an update from M-Audio on my ticket:

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"[Alex Solano -- 12/18/2007 07:09:00]
Hi Michael,

We just tested one of our MTII using a Firewire Audio interface as our S/PDIF source to record 24/96 and we could not duplicate the problem. Do you have a different S/PDIF source you can test.

Also make sure to format the media before recording. "
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I don't have another S/PDIF source to test, so I'll have to wait until someone else on the board can test with something other than a V3.

EDIT:  I have a Presonus Firestudio.  I forgot it has S/PDIF out.  Will test ASAP. 

--Michael
« Last Edit: December 18, 2007, 10:40:56 AM by mblindsey »
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2007, 10:51:44 AM »
They asked me the same thing.  The thing I told them is, my MT 1 has no problems. 
Audio: Neumann KM 100> 20, 30, 40, 43 or 50 > V3 > MT II (love that M/S)
Still Camera Body: Canon D5 Mark II
Canon Lenses:  16-35mm f2.8L II USM; 28-135mm f3.5-5.6 IS USM; 70-200mm f2.8L IS USM
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2007, 10:15:04 PM »

Okay, I can't reproduce the problem with my Presonus Firestudio.

1.  I used Reaper to record a short 24/96 *.wav file with the Firestudio.
2.  I played this file back in CDWav.  The file properties showed it was 24/96.
3.  I played the file again and sent the audio to the S/PDIF out of the Firestudio.
4.  I captured the audio on the MT II's S/PDIF in and wrote the file.
5.  I moved the *.wav file recorded on the MT II back to the PC, and played it in CDWav. 
6.  The file played fine and had "properties" showing that it was, in fact, 24/96.
7.  I tried the same test using the S/PDIF out of the V3:
     24/44.1 = good
     24/48 = good
     24/96 = broken

Unless I've made some huge error...it seems that only 24/96 S/PDIF sent from the V3 to the MT II has an issue.  Does anyone have any other gear they can test with?  I'll even bring my MT II over to you if you live in the KC area.
 
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Mics:  Microtech Gefell m200/M20/nBob Actives>PFA, CA-11
Pre's: USB Pre2, 1x V3, 2x V3 w/optimod, MP2, Church Ugly
Decks: SD MixPre 6 II, R44 Oade Concert Mod, M10
Playback: Grace m9xx->Sen HD 650, Fostex TH-X00, HIFIMAN HEXX
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2007, 08:30:20 AM »

Okay, I can't reproduce the problem with my Presonus Firestudio.

1.  I used Reaper to record a short 24/96 *.wav file with the Firestudio.
2.  I played this file back in CDWav.  The file properties showed it was 24/96.
3.  I played the file again and sent the audio to the S/PDIF out of the Firestudio.
4.  I captured the audio on the MT II's S/PDIF in and wrote the file.
5.  I moved the *.wav file recorded on the MT II back to the PC, and played it in CDWav. 
6.  The file played fine and had "properties" showing that it was, in fact, 24/96.
7.  I tried the same test using the S/PDIF out of the V3:
     24/44.1 = good
     24/48 = good
     24/96 = broken

Unless I've made some huge error...it seems that only 24/96 S/PDIF sent from the V3 to the MT II has an issue.  Does anyone have any other gear they can test with?  I'll even bring my MT II over to you if you live in the KC area.
 
--Michael


I generally record 24/44 so its not the biggest problem for me, but it still sucks. I am considering canceling my order. I wonder what changed from the MT I. I can't see M-Audio fixing this problem if its only a problem with a V3.
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2007, 09:37:47 AM »
I sent an email this morning to Grace to see if they could help us on this problem as I don't see M Audio being of much help at this point.  Oh, and I have not heard back from M Audio yet.
Audio: Neumann KM 100> 20, 30, 40, 43 or 50 > V3 > MT II (love that M/S)
Still Camera Body: Canon D5 Mark II
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2007, 09:39:15 AM »
Rick, might be a bad idea while everything is up in the air at this point.  I myself am not giving up on finding out why this is a problem.
Audio: Neumann KM 100> 20, 30, 40, 43 or 50 > V3 > MT II (love that M/S)
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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2007, 10:45:38 AM »
i checked 24/96 with the v-3 did not work right.  i can't imagine that there is something inherently wrong with the v-3.
it is one of the most well designed pre amp/ a/d converters out there.

okay, back from maiden voyage with the mt 2.
last night we had a fundraiser to try and prevent a mine from opening in our community.
 
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Kind Kables Canare Quad Star > Korg Mr-1000 @ 1 bit 2.8MHz.
 
ran the mt 2 analog out from the korg @24/48.  the mt 2 froze up both sets and did not save the files.

i have been a pretty loyal mt 1 user and never talked crap about them.

that has just changed, my 1st impression after using the mt 2 is that is is a piece of shit. 

ymmv good luck to the rest of the mt 2 owners.

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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2007, 12:08:14 PM »
Well, It looks like I may be holding off on buying an MTII for a while. Maybe I will just pick up the MTI in the yardsale. ......must resist urge to slut..........

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Re: MT II problems
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2007, 01:05:59 PM »
Hmmmmmm, I have MTII on order for my V3 as well... will be interested to see if this can get resolved ASAP. So the only work around at this point is to just go 24/44.1 or 24/48 w/ the V3 eh?
KM184s / DPA4060s > V3 > MTII

 

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