Topic: Chopping the legs on a FOB stand!!! DynaLite 0470 CHOPPED!

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hey
so I have a dyna-Lite # 0470 (2M) stand
I got from B&H about 3 years ago

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/16614-REG/Dyna_Lite_0470_Black_Compact_Light_6_5_.html

I use
it onstage
and for some
"friendly" FOB shows




I understand It is the same as a Bogen stand (dyna-lite is also Bogen)

I know some folks chop the legs
for FOB use

but
where?

how much to chop off?

it looks like if I cut off about 6"
the legs would be equal to the top of the tripod collar (for lack of a better term) when the legs are folded up

is this what others do?

any suggestions
before I hack mine?

any advice
is always
appreciated

thanx
tons!

peace
-- Ian

[Javier Cinakowski]

I just use that small Tripod Microphone stands for this use...

I understand It is the same as a Bogen stand (dyna-lite is also Bogen)

Huh?  I see no affialiation between these 2 companies that are more than 4,000 miles apart....

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I just use that small Tripod Microphone stands for this use...

I understand It is the same as a Bogen stand (dyna-lite is also Bogen)

Huh?  I see no affialiation between these 2 companies that are more than 4,000 miles apart....

I am fairly sure that dyna lite is a sub division of bogen... any how its the same as a bogen  stand
I'm pretty sure it came in a bogen /dynalite box  but this could be a pure mind blank to me

doen't really matter.. its the same as a bogen

this stand is light weight and folds down  to ~18"
tallest for smallest

any how I am glad you use something else
but
that was not my question...
I have seen the same stand used by FOB folks for years and  it's chopped

again
Q: how much to chop off on the legs
that are super long?

thanx

 for any future input


BTW I have many other stands a larger and slightly taller Bogen stand , a Bogen Superclamp , A Photoflex stand that is ~11'  plenty of other assorted stands regular mic stands, a mini  round base and tiny Dewey etc...

this dyna light is my go to stand
due to its compact size and amount it can be adjusted to may heights and its light wweight

[Javier Cinakowski]

I am fairly sure that dyna lite is a sub division of bogen... any how its the same as a bogen  stand
I'm pretty sure it came in a bogen /dynalite box  but this could be a pure mind blank to me

doen't really matter.. its the same as a bogen

I don't know shit, but all indicators are pointing toward "mind blank."

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I am fairly sure that dyna lite is a sub division of bogen... any how its the same as a bogen  stand
I'm pretty sure it came in a bogen /dynalite box  but this could be a pure mind blank to me

doen't really matter.. its the same as a bogen

I don't know shit, but all indicators are pointing toward "mind blank."

WOW
Javier
thanx for your helpful comments

[Javier Cinakowski]

No problem home slice!  I enjoy a good pissing match with vain internet strangers who take things to personally.  Frankly I was hoping you would pull some vague excerpt from an internet post showing evidence of a relationship between Manfrotto/Bogen and DynaLite.  Then I would be able to pull my doctoral thesis out, "Photographer lighting and accessories, an in-depth look." 

No really, I wasn't trying to hijack your thread or piss you off.  I did have some input and wanted some clarification on your dyna-lite remarks.  If you want my real opinion, just use some logic and thought to determine where you could chop the stand legs and still have good stability.
 

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No problem home slice!  I enjoy a good pissing match with vain internet strangers who take things to personally.  Frankly I was hoping you would pull some vague excerpt from an internet post showing evidence of a relationship between Manfrotto/Bogen and DynaLite.  Then I would be able to pull my doctoral thesis out, "Photographer lighting and accessories, an in-depth look." 

No really, I wasn't trying to hijack your thread or piss you off.  I did have some input and wanted some clarification on your dyna-lite remarks.  If you want my real opinion, just use some logic and thought to determine where you could chop the stand legs and still have good stability.
 

hey no worries
I am not pissed

except for bashin my  comment about bogen and dyna lite
you have offered no helpful suggestions for my question

but
have helped to keep the post alive

that's helpful!



ahhh yes logic...
I can use that, but wondered abouyt folks that had actuall experience  chopping the stands
rather then just my educated (logical) guess...
say what you will


at the Pickathon
I did compare my stand to a bogen that had been chopped
they looked the same except for the chopped legs
of course
I did not
make any kind of notations on the length


peace out

[kgreener]

http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,30041.0.html
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,14931.0.html

[bhadella]

My legs are cut down to 12" (or when measuring it folded up, the legs extend up to where the sections connect).  The rubber boots come off quite easily and will stay reattached to your hacked down legs if you put them back on. 

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hey
kgreener
thanx for those links...
!!!!!
and
bhadella

 your chopped to 12"
makes sense

I measured mine they are about 18.5 "
I figured about 6" off
would place them about the collar of the leg mount
which would equal about 12 "

thanx to both of you for very useful  (actual) information

+t for both of you


I'll consider where I should cut them off
should the ends be round cornered for the rubber feet to fit best?

thanx
-- Ian

[johnw]

My 3373 is cut back 6 or 8" like you're saying. Perfect for seated shows when the legs are flat against the ground, but I miss the height outdoors. I need to buy another I guess

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My 3373 is cut back 6 or 8" like you're saying. Perfect for seated shows when the legs are flat against the ground, but I miss the height outdoors. I need to buy another I guess

so
johnw

are you saying that
you legs are hacked short enough...
that you can't (safely) make the tripod point upwards?
or that your legs have to be horizontal to the ground at all times?

currently
if I need the extra height
I pull the legs in tighter and can get about an extra 6 - 8" of height from the stand
which can be helpful

thanx
-- Ian

[johnw]

I'm saying I cut the legs off like you suggested. It still makes a tripod fine but takes a few inches off the height

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I'm saying I cut the legs off like you suggested. It still makes a tripod fine but takes a few inches off the height

oh Ok

I guess if I wanted xtra height
I could use a short gooseneck

sounds fine
thanx again

[jerryfreak]

note that when you cut the legs off, you will lose a bit of stability.

for fob i generally run with the bottom of the pole just off the ground, like 1". Then the legs ar essentially flat and you can throw a backpack or jacket over top of them to prevent people from triping over the stand

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note that when you cut the legs off, you will lose a bit of stability.

for fob i generally run with the bottom of the pole just off the ground, like 1". Then the legs ar essentially flat and you can throw a backpack or jacket over top of them to prevent people from triping over the stand

jerryfreak
thanx

I usually run the legs hiked up a bit tight any way
and yep
i do the back pack trick
or if on grass, a tent stake or 2 to help stabilize it

when I hack it
I'll take before and after pics

I am still a bit nervous about cutting my stand
but it WILL happen soon

thanx again

-- Ian

[BayTaynt3d]

or if on grass, a tent stake or 2 to help stabilize it

Now that is a good idea. +T

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or if on grass, a tent stake or 2 to help stabilize it

Now that is a good idea. +T

mannnn
I always have at least one aluminum hooked tent stake with me for shows on lawn or grass
have been doing this for over 21 years...

the first the Grateful Dead played shoreline in 87 the section was on the hugely sloped lawn...
needed a stake there for sure!

thanx
-- Ian

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Before:

DynaLite Sticker says: Made in Italy


open Pre-chop




Partial open - pre chop





Closed Pre-Chop

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ok
so up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

you see the pre chopping

and now the choped



Open Post Chop



Partial Open POST Chop




Closed POST Chop




Partial Open POST Chop with pieces cut





So
I ended up cutting about 5.5" off the legs   (you can see the pieces I hacked off above ^^^^^^)
the rubber caps use about 7/8" or so of the leg...
6" would have brought the legs in tight with the "collar" of the tripod
I wanted the feet to stick up just above the collar
it worked out to be about 5 1/2 "

Cut it with a simple jig saw w/ metal blade
then used a grinding stone  on a drill to "round" corner the ends of the hacked legs


any how I hope that helps others

and as soon as I run this stand I'll report back
I may run it on sunday...
for now

Peace Thru Sharing Music

-- Ian

[dean]

Piling onto the tent stake comments (I keep 3 in my bag), I have a similar stand/similar legs, and at outdoor festival recording on a slope I've actually stabbed the back leg(s) into the ground so my stand would run plum, and add tent stake on the remaining above ground leg(s).  It's freakin' slick to have a skinny legged stand outdoors.

[BayTaynt3d]

I own two of these stands, and I use them on stage all the time. One will be promptly chopped this weekend due to this thread. Thanks!

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I own two of these stands, and I use them on stage all the time. One will be promptly chopped this weekend due to this thread. Thanks!

BayTaynt3d

Glad it helped you!

hopefully It will be useful for others too!



peace
-- Ian

[Javier Cinakowski]

DynaLite Sticker says: Made in Italy

hmm, interesting.  Perhaps you are on to something with the Bogen / Dynalite thing.

the chop looks good, nice job...

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DynaLite Sticker says: Made in Italy

hmm, interesting.  Perhaps you are on to something with the Bogen / Dynalite thing.

the chop looks good, nice job...

hey thanx for the compliment!

peace
-- Ian

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DynaLite Sticker says: Made in Italy

hmm, interesting.  Perhaps you are on to something with the Bogen / Dynalite thing.

the chop looks good, nice job...

hey thanx for the compliment!

peace
-- Ian

Resurrected this topic - as I though it might interest a few folks...

Just found the box the stand came in and all the literature aka user manual is from Manfrotto:
Instructions:
Lightweight Aluminum
Studio-Location Stands.

so in fact Dyna-lite is  the same as Bogen

--Ian

[BayTaynt3d]

Since we're resurrecting, might as well report back that I did in fact chop one of my two stands a year ago, and it worked out great. When I need the extra support I go for the unchopped stand, when I'm on stage or need low profile, etc., I used the chopped version. Thanks again for the idea!

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Since we're resurrecting, might as well report back that I did in fact chop one of my two stands a year ago, and it worked out great. When I need the extra support I go for the unchopped stand, when I'm on stage or need low profile, etc., I used the chopped version. Thanks again for the idea!

nice!
got any pics to share?

[BayTaynt3d]

Since we're resurrecting, might as well report back that I did in fact chop one of my two stands a year ago, and it worked out great. When I need the extra support I go for the unchopped stand, when I'm on stage or need low profile, etc., I used the chopped version. Thanks again for the idea!

nice!
got any pics to share?

Looks exactly like yours actually! 

[coop]

Cut off 6", chamfer the ends of the legs with a file and epoxy the rubber feet on so they do not get lost.  Worked for me.

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so in fact Dyna-lite is  the same as Bogen

I've gotten gear from places that shipped competitors manuals because it was just a generic knock off before. In my experince, I've seen it happen with re-branding efforts (mfg A makes the product, and B and C just buy A's supply and put their sticker on it).

I did some checking, Dynalite is a light stand maker from New Jersey, and neither them, nor their parent company appear to be owned by Vitek (who owns Bogen, Manfroto, and Avenger who all make tons of gear we use). Dynalite even manufactures their stuff here in America. This (stand) may have been a result of re-branding transition or a run on supply so they picked up a competitors stock to fill an order.

So while the stands 5001B from Manfroto and the 0470 from Dynalite may function and visually look the same (and for all practical purposes are the same as you note in your third post), I think they are just knock offs of each other. It happens, no worries, the chop discussion is valid for all generic "fob stands" that have the leg connectors on the top like this. I only bring this up since it seems you are really insistant on proving a bogen/dynalite link, and I can't find any evidence to support that.

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so in fact Dyna-lite is  the same as Bogen

I only bring this up since it seems you are really insistant on proving a bogen/dynalite link, and I can't find any evidence to support that.

Thanx  for your insight Page...

The reson I have posted this a number of times - is that when I bought this stand in like 2005 from B&H photo- I swear that it stated  that in fact the stand was manufactured by Bogen- however that was 5 years ago.
Also I have not used my time to research any connection of the companies...
you could very well be right.

I hear what you are saying- may be it's a knock off- but side by side comparison leads to the fact it is the same stand- and the sticker on the stand I have clearly states: "Made In Italy"
may be that's some place in New Jersey-- Italy NJ ? don't know

I'm not sure why it would state made in italy - and come with manfrotto  user info- however
if you and others insist
- I'm full of it- so be it.

all I am saying is that I remember that 5 years ago the B&H site stated it was made by Bogen-
doesn't matter - except - some folks don't believe my memory
that's fine too-

as like you said the actual chopping of the stand is valid.

Hopefully it has helped the folks that have viewed it- as that was the reason I posted it-
not to try to prove that dyna-lite - has - or has not - any connection to Bogen.

I choose to look at the merit of posts rather than disputing trival things, and try to be constructive- rather than destructive...
but
 to each his own



peacefully
--Ian