Topic: Tascam/Teac VR-10 Digital Recorder

[UnknownVT]

WOWZA!!! I am ALWAYS impressed with that cheap lil recorder. Sounds like a great recording with external mics and preamp! Id take that any day of the week!

Thank you so much -
I find it hard sometimes to be objective -
especially on a great performance -
Thanks for the input, much appreciated.

[F.O.Bean]

WOWZA!!! I am ALWAYS impressed with that cheap lil recorder. Sounds like a great recording with external mics and preamp! Id take that any day of the week!

Thank you so much -
I find it hard sometimes to be objective -
especially on a great performance -
Thanks for the input, much appreciated.

Hey, I just say it like it is!

[UnknownVT]

Hey, I just say it like it is!

Many thanks.

Try these:


Download (6MB)



Download (6.9MB)
(listen in particular to the piano solo)

Both Teac VR-10 internal mics 24bit 48kHz original > 44.1kHz vbr3 + MP3Gain

[Jonmac]

Here's a recording I did with my Tascam DR-05 and internal mics. The mics are omni, so the stereo separation isn't too wide.

The recorder was lying on a table about 10 feet in front of the band, and I'm quite happy with the result. It shows that internal mics
CAN do a reasonable job.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70230944/Yankee%20Doodle%20Dandy.mp3

[cd2go]

Thanks for the updates Vincent, sound nice.

Here's a recording I did with my Tascam DR-05 and internal mics. The mics are omni, so the stereo separation isn't too wide.
The recorder was lying on a table about 10 feet in front of the band, and I'm quite happy with the result. It shows that internal mics
CAN do a reasonable job.

Thanks for posting this, I've been waiting to hear a sample from the DR-05. The cymbals have a very nice air and decay to them, not smeary at all! I do have to say, there seems to be a lack of low end which is surprising for omnis--do you think this is from the mic's response or was there a lack of bass from the performance itself (and the mics just replicated that)?

-james

[F.O.Bean]

all of those samples sound good IMO! Crazy that a low priced recorder can handle such detail and tone!

[Jonmac]

[/quote]

Thanks for posting this, I've been waiting to hear a sample from the DR-05. The cymbals have a very nice air and decay to them, not smeary at all! I do have to say, there seems to be a lack of low end which is surprising for omnis--do you think this is from the mic's response or was there a lack of bass from the performance itself (and the mics just replicated that)?

-james
[/quote]

The band is quite light on the Bass, there is a Bass guitarist right at the back of the band, but he isn't very loud.

Jon

[UnknownVT]

OK.... here's an interesting A/B Test -



recording of the exact same section only 1:03 mins - 44.1kHz MP3 vbr3
I tried to equal/level the replay volumes the best I could with MP3Gain to the standard 89db

Download A

Download B

small files only about 1.3MB each.

Please compare (and if necessary level the replay volume)
and let us know which you prefer and why?

[fguidry]

I'm not sure how to compare them, one seems to be a board recording and the other a room mic capture.

Fran

[UnknownVT]

I'm not sure how to compare them, one seems to be a board recording and the other a room mic capture.

Thanks Fran - full marks.

Indeed board recording - probably the most obvious is the lack of audience noise.

But did you have any preference to overall sound?

or notice any obvious defects?

Thanks,

[UnknownVT]

It's bluegrass  -
pretty astonishing stuff -


2 short pieces -

banjo solo Download (1.77MB)

ad-hoc duet Download (2.66MB)

Willie Duncan Download (4.52MB)

vr-10 internal mics 24bit 48kHz originals > 44.1kHz vbr3 + MP3Gain
recorder positioned just to the left of where I took the above photo (ie: close)

Enjoy!

[UnknownVT]

Too good not to share -
from last night -




Another Brick - Download (19.24MB)

Hurt - Download (12.02MB)

vr-10 internal mics 24bit 48kHz original > 44.1k vbr3 (no replay gain)

Please enjoy!

[UnknownVT]

Really BIG sound



Try these -

Download (10.89MB)

Download (8.75MB)

Download (6.87MB)

If you like these enough the whole set is at:

Download Folder (48.13MB Total)

Teac VR-10 internal mics 24bit 48kHz L-PCM original > 44.1kHz vbr3 MP3 + MP3Gain

Position behind where I took this shot about 6ft high next to soundboard.

[UnknownVT]

Look what came in the mail today -



It's a Tascam DR-03 - said by some to be the same as the Teac VR-10 - the specs do look identical -
yet others say the DR-03 internal mics are "crappy".

So I had to to do a side-by-side test -
I put on a CD that I had been using for SQ test for years -
"The Lazarus Heart" by Sting from the CD "...Nothing Like the Sun"

Set this Tascam DR-03 and my well used Teac VR-10 side-by-side in front of my home audio system - set the volume so that it was just loud - but not uncomfortable
set the manual record levels to the same - so that it was moving the meter - but safely under the peak.

Started both recorders and then started the CD a few seconds later so that there would be a few seconds of the "silence" of my room.
and recorded less than 2 mins of the beginning of track.

I had done a similar test back in Post #27
but I re-did the VR-10 so that it was literally recording side-by-side.

Teac VR-10 Test sample Download (2.57MB)

Tascam DR-03 Test sample Download (2.54MB)

I leave it for you to judge for yourselves


Both Internal mics -  24bit 48kHz L-PCM originals > flac8 >44.1kHz vbr3 +MP3gain.

[UnknownVT]

Tascam DR-03 - said by some to be the same as the Teac VR-10 - the specs do look identical -

A live recording from the Tascam DR-03 -
outdoor concert - vocals in front of an 19 piece jazz orchestra -
absolutely fabulous performance that got a standing ovation



- hope the recording does it justice.

06 Fair.mp3 - Download (13.43MB)

Tascam DR-03 24bit 48kHz L-PCM original > 44.1k vbr3 (-4.5db basscut) +MP3Gain

Enjoy!