Topic: Rupert Neve Designs Portico 5012 portable 2-channel pre

[SonicSound]

A comp is pointless.  Nothing beats this box.

I just sold my V3

[muj]

A comp is pointless.  Nothing beats this box.

oh.really? now i am curious to find out more about this unit.

[scb]

A comp is pointless.  Nothing beats this box.

you also say it's transparent, when even rupert neve himself says he specifically designed it to NOT be transparent

so i don't exactly go by what you say, just what i hear

[ingsy]

torrent of a recent 'color and talea' show w/ the portico - decent recording of a cool band:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=54578.0

picks of the portico in my gear bag:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=54168.0

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

at red rocks, yes...A-B 4015's.

howie day and JBT, ORTF 4011's.

variations of the following:

DPA 4011 Cardioid / 4015 Wide Cardioid > Luminous Audio Technology Synchestra 4/9's Silver XLR Interconnect > Rupert Neve Designs Portico 5012 Microphone Preamplifier > Luminous Audio Technology Synchestra Signature 6/9's Copper XLR Interconnect > Mytek Digital Stereo192 Analog-to-Digital Converter (@ 24-bit / 96 kHz) > Luminous Audio Technology Allegro Signature 4/9's Silver AES / EBU Digital Interconnect > Sound Devices 722 Hard Disk Recorder (locked to Stereo192 clock @ 96 kHz; 24-bit / 96 kHz)

Location in reguards to the PA?  Stand height etc?

I might be wrong but the samples sound like they're PA/stack tapes.  Do you have any samples from mid-field or far field?  It sounds great, but it's hard to judge the sonic qualities with a PA tape IMO.

[ingsy]

at red rocks, yes...A-B 4015's.

howie day and JBT, ORTF 4011's.

variations of the following:

DPA 4011 Cardioid / 4015 Wide Cardioid > Luminous Audio Technology Synchestra 4/9's Silver XLR Interconnect > Rupert Neve Designs Portico 5012 Microphone Preamplifier > Luminous Audio Technology Synchestra Signature 6/9's Copper XLR Interconnect > Mytek Digital Stereo192 Analog-to-Digital Converter (@ 24-bit / 96 kHz) > Luminous Audio Technology Allegro Signature 4/9's Silver AES / EBU Digital Interconnect > Sound Devices 722 Hard Disk Recorder (locked to Stereo192 clock @ 96 kHz; 24-bit / 96 kHz)

Location in reguards to the PA?  Stand height etc?

I might be wrong but the samples sound like they're PA/stack tapes.  Do you have any samples from mid-field or far field?  It sounds great, but it's hard to judge the sonic qualities with a PA tape IMO.

http://www.archive.org/audio/etree-details-db.php?id=31211
another recording from chris, this one of 311 w/ the following location: First row of balcony, DFC.  Mics at approximately 5' above balcony rail, approximately 20' off of floor, ORTF.

I think my torrent above is dead now, but that was about 7' from the stage, 10' up.  NOS

[Tim]

you also say it's transparent, when even rupert neve himself says he specifically designed it to NOT be transparent

so i don't exactly go by what you say, just what i hear

[ingsy]

you also say it's transparent, when even rupert neve himself says he specifically designed it to NOT be transparent

so i don't exactly go by what you say, just what i hear

i haven't run this enough to be sure, but as of right now i have to agree that it is more transparent than i would have thought, givin what the neve salesguy was saying.  i think it depends if you turn on the 'silk' button, which i am gonna try out on Friday.  anyone else try this option out yet?  the website states: "The RND 5012 uses mainly single-sided amplifier circuitry that excludes any possibility of crossover distortion. The “SILK” button reduces negative feedback and adjusts the frequency spectrum to provide a very sweet and musical performance".

[pickmando]

From the photo on the first page of the thread, the unit has LEDs for the following marks: -30, -18, -12, -6, 4, 10, 22.

Why would one push the levels to the 4, 10, or 22 levels?  Obviously not for our use, but surely for some - can someone shed some light for me?

[cleantone]

Damn. Any idea what the new street price will be? I can't afford one now but want one sometime. I like this piece alot. I want to hear more of it on more sound sources.

[chris_jones]

more stack work with the fruit of rupert's labor, this time indoors (joe louis arena / DET, MI):

http://www2.bc.edu/~jonescx/dmb/tm.mp3

this box's transparency will indeed surprise you.  i continue to love it, love it, love it. 

DPA 4015 Wide Cardioid > Luminous Audio Technology Synchestra
4/9's Ag XLR Interconnect > Rupert Neve Designs Portico 5012
Microphone Preamplifier > Luminous Audio Technology Synchestra
Signature 6/9's Cu XLR Interconnect > Mytek Digital Stereo192
Analog-to-Digital Converter (@ 24-bit / 96 kHz) > Luminous Audio
Technology Allegro Signature 4/9's Ag AES / EBU Digital Interconnect >
Sound Devices 722 Hard Disk Recorder (locked to Stereo192 clock @ 96
kHz; 24-bit / 96 kHz)

[ingsy]

From the photo on the first page of the thread, the unit has LEDs for the following marks: -30, -18, -12, -6, 4, 10, 22.

Why would one push the levels to the 4, 10, or 22 levels?  Obviously not for our use, but surely for some - can someone shed some light for me?

I wondered this as well, basically the meter is 'with reference to the output'.  Here is what is written in the manual:
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An eight segment LED bar-graph meter is fitted to each channel, calibrated in dBu as follows: -30, -18, -12, -6, +4, +10, +16, +22
With Refrence to the balanced output signal level.
The input level can be determined by reading the Meter indication, then subtracting the Gain settings of the Sensitivity swith and the Trim control.  For Example, if the meter is reading +10 dBu, with the Trim control at, say, +2 and the main Gain switch is at 42, the level of the input signal is 10 - 42 - 2 = -34 dBu.
****************
I haven't got the hang of this yet, so I use them to make sure each channel is level, then use the AD500 and JB3 to detect clipping. 

[Genghis Cougar Mellen Khan]

more stack work with the fruit of rupert's labor, this time indoors (joe louis arena / DET, MI):

http://www2.bc.edu/~jonescx/dmb/tm.mp3

this box's transparency will indeed surprise you.  i continue to love it, love it, love it. 

DPA 4015 Wide Cardioid > Luminous Audio Technology Synchestra
4/9's Ag XLR Interconnect > Rupert Neve Designs Portico 5012
Microphone Preamplifier > Luminous Audio Technology Synchestra
Signature 6/9's Cu XLR Interconnect > Mytek Digital Stereo192
Analog-to-Digital Converter (@ 24-bit / 96 kHz) > Luminous Audio
Technology Allegro Signature 4/9's Ag AES / EBU Digital Interconnect >
Sound Devices 722 Hard Disk Recorder (locked to Stereo192 clock @ 96
kHz; 24-bit / 96 kHz)

Where was it recorded from, location?  Stand FOB, stack etc...?   Sounds great.

more stack work

Duh!!

Doesn't everything come off pretty nice n clean on the stacks?

I ran 4022>V3>m1 and at853RX>mp2>m1 (no adc) on the stacks at multiple shows, VERY minor difference in sound.  Now take the 2 and record FOB, there's no comparrison, the difference is huge.  It's a not-so-great way to get the real feel for the sound of that combo IMO. 

[RebelRebel]

do the vocals on DMB stack tapes always sound so distant???seems like every sample ive heard is lacking in vocal presence...not criticizing your setup, just curious...if I didnt have a brick id grab one of these neves..

[RebelRebel]

www.thelisteningsessions.com have plenty samples as well.(as well as other top shelf pre samples)