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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #255 on: August 29, 2018, 09:34:12 PM »
Just got my mix pre 6 today. Only had a few minutes before work to mess with it. Im guessing Ill have a few questions. Just ordered this for pickup tomorrow with an A>C cable. Anyone use this?
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/anker-powercore-20000-mah-portable-charger-for-most-usb-enabled-devices-black/5948567.p?skuId=5948567&cmp=RMX&extStoreId=536&ref=212&loc=1&ds_rl=1255843&gclid=Cj0KCQjwiJncBRC1ARIsAOvG-a7DpqqShnIKRCBHyDEjbYb79cGtdsukqFNVSFF3JgnZd0Anb9nRl2gaAuIGEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
Also was going to go with my lowe pro nova 140 bag but that seem a bit big, although with 4 channels of cables and mics it will probably be a good fit. I dont want to be the lazy one, as ive already got a great deal of info from these threads, but has anyone put together a settings link or spreadsheet of some sort for situational presets for this thing yet? The thing is tiny! Im excited to try it out friday.

I’m not an expert, but I have read a LOT of posts in these threads about people having problems with powering their MixPre3-6’s with various USB-A batteries. The last I looked, Sound Devices was very particular about which batteries these units can utilize so I bought the exact USB-C portable battery which Sound Devices recommends on their website. I personally did not want to take a chance, despite there seeming to be some people who said their battery worked.

https://www.sounddevices.com/tech-notes/mixpre-3-mixpre-6-powering-options
Thank you. Im going to give that anker a try and hopefully it works until the hawkswoods hirose adapter comes in.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #256 on: August 30, 2018, 02:34:11 AM »
Speaking of our friends in Reedsburg, WI, the folks at Sound Devices HQ look like they might be having some concerns about flooding. I have a friend with a mostly submerged farm not terribly far from there, and there are evacuations going on right now in parts of Reedsburg:

http://www.nbc15.com/content/news/Evacuations-happening-in-parts-of-Reedsburg-491941621.html

I suggested to my (very good) friend that he might now consider fish farming — he suggested I get myself over there to help him move some stuff to higher ground, which is what I will likely be doing this weekend in addition to bringing some food for folks in need in the area.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #257 on: August 30, 2018, 06:25:57 AM »
Mine also vary by a bit

What I meant was that they do not have the same physical position although they are set to the same numerical value.
They all have a slightly different position at any given value except at lowest or highest.

They are off a hair.
Which means I can not look at them and trust their physical relationship to each other. And is forced to nudge them to get the true numerical relationship.

It’s annoying and I believe they should not be that way. :)

Does anybody know the reason yet? As this seems odd, is it just poor quality control on their cheaper units?

Time to give an update.

After a couple of resets and factory restores, Sound Devices support staff and head tech informed me that a calibration process is not available for the end user. They decided I should return the MixPre-3 to the shop for an exchange.

The unit was returned and I placed an order for a MixPre-6 instead.

SD support is top notch and everything went very smooth.
I’m now eagerly waiting for the MP6. :)
« Last Edit: August 30, 2018, 02:31:01 PM by justme »

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #258 on: August 30, 2018, 07:08:38 AM »
Using a USB-A battery is a very bad idea.

Follow the SD instructions and use an approved USB-C battery. 
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #259 on: August 30, 2018, 12:25:20 PM »
Using a USB-A battery is a very bad idea.

Follow the SD instructions and use an approved USB-C battery.
Correct. It makes no sense to buy or use a battery with underpowered output.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #260 on: August 30, 2018, 05:13:03 PM »
Using a USB-A battery is a very bad idea.

Follow the SD instructions and use an approved USB-C battery.
Correct. It makes no sense to buy or use a battery with underpowered output.
I realized i got the wrong one last night and changed the order. Thanks guys.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #261 on: August 30, 2018, 07:45:16 PM »
Using a USB-A battery is a very bad idea.

Follow the SD instructions and use an approved USB-C battery.

Why do you say it's a bad idea?

I've run mine with just 2 mics powered by a small USB battery (USB-A > USB-C), in stealth situations. No issues at all. Actually more reliable than the approved battery.

I'm not going to use that battery all the time, but it works. I find the USB-C > USB-C connection on the battery to be less reliable when it's in a pocket, and I only stealth with 2 mics.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #262 on: August 30, 2018, 07:46:45 PM »
Using a USB-A battery is a very bad idea.

Follow the SD instructions and use an approved USB-C battery.

Why do you say it's a bad idea?

I've run mine with just 2 mics powered by a small USB battery (USB-A > USB-C), in stealth situations. No issues at all. Actually more reliable than the approved battery.

I'm not going to use that battery all the time, but it works. I find the USB-C > USB-C connection on the battery to be less reliable when it's in a pocket, and I only stealth with 2 mics.

Just not clear about this... less reliable in what way?
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #263 on: August 30, 2018, 07:49:43 PM »
Using a USB-A battery is a very bad idea.

Follow the SD instructions and use an approved USB-C battery.

Why do you say it's a bad idea?

I've run mine with just 2 mics powered by a small USB battery (USB-A > USB-C), in stealth situations. No issues at all. Actually more reliable than the approved battery.

I'm not going to use that battery all the time, but it works. I find the USB-C > USB-C connection on the battery to be less reliable when it's in a pocket, and I only stealth with 2 mics.

Just not clear about this... less reliable in what way?

Sorry. The USB-C connection tends to come loose in my pocket on the approved battery (the connection on the recorder is fine). If I don't notice my stealth mics (Nevaton MCE400) eat through the AA's in about 30 minutes.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #264 on: August 30, 2018, 08:01:36 PM »
Using a USB-A battery is a very bad idea.

Follow the SD instructions and use an approved USB-C battery.

Why do you say it's a bad idea?

I've run mine with just 2 mics powered by a small USB battery (USB-A > USB-C), in stealth situations. No issues at all. Actually more reliable than the approved battery.

I'm not going to use that battery all the time, but it works. I find the USB-C > USB-C connection on the battery to be less reliable when it's in a pocket, and I only stealth with 2 mics.

Just not clear about this... less reliable in what way?

Sorry. The USB-C connection tends to come loose in my pocket on the approved battery (the connection on the recorder is fine). If I don't notice my stealth mics (Nevaton MCE400) eat through the AA's in about 30 minutes.

I see. Yes, I have heard many complaints about the C cable coming loose. One other aspect is the approved battery is super heavy. Not the best for being sneaky.
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #265 on: August 30, 2018, 09:45:49 PM »
Using a USB-A battery is a very bad idea.

Follow the SD instructions and use an approved USB-C battery.

Why do you say it's a bad idea?

I've run mine with just 2 mics powered by a small USB battery (USB-A > USB-C), in stealth situations. No issues at all. Actually more reliable than the approved battery.

I'm not going to use that battery all the time, but it works. I find the USB-C > USB-C connection on the battery to be less reliable when it's in a pocket, and I only stealth with 2 mics.

In my opinion, it's a bad idea because a usb-c device, designed to run on usb-c batteries, will have a much higher likelihood of failure when run off of a usb-a battery. Why risk it?

I'd advise use of a right angle usb-c cable on the battery side. That way you can use a rubber band or gaf tape as a backup there if you still have issues.

Alternatively, I use this when the big anker is too big: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HyperGear-USB-C-QC-2-0-Power-Bank-High-Capacity-12000mAh-Portable-Battery-and/282902414767?epid=1792348047&hash=item41de4c45af:g:KwUAAOSw6T9auuBy

For OTS, I leave the smaller hypergear in the bag as a backup or to charge my phone. It runs the mixpre6 6 channels for at least 5 hours.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2018, 10:32:26 PM by noahbickart »
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #267 on: August 31, 2018, 12:03:29 AM »

Noah said:

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Alternatively, I use this when the big anker is too big: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HyperGear-USB-C-QC-2-0-Power-Bank-High-Capacity-12000mAh-Portable-Battery-and/282902414767?epid=1792348047&hash=item41de4c45af:g:KwUAAOSw6T9auuBy

For OTS, I leave the smaller hypergear in the bag as a backup or to charge my phone. It runs the mixpre6 6 channels for at least 5 hours.

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Thanks, Noah, for the great suggestion of the HyperGear!
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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #268 on: August 31, 2018, 02:44:54 AM »
After a couple of resets and factory restores, Sound Devices support staff and head tech informed me that a calibration process is not available for the end user. They decided I should return the MixPre-3 to the shop for an exchange.

The unit was returned and I placed an order for a MixPre-6 instead.

SD support is top notch and everything went very smooth.
I’m now eagerly waiting for the MP6. :)
Great to know. Beware, will you be tempted to get a MixPre 10T next time? ;)

I had a silly problem with my unit. After fiddling with signal routing when testing a stereo microphone channel 2 would keep the gain raised for more than 10 dB compared to channel 1 and 3. But just doing a reassignation of inputs to Aux In and Mic again solved it.

But it was a software bug in my case. Their software is full of side effects between menu options and it can be troublesome.

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Re: Sound Devices MixPre-3 and 6, Part 5
« Reply #269 on: August 31, 2018, 08:12:21 AM »

Noah said:

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Alternatively, I use this when the big anker is too big: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HyperGear-USB-C-QC-2-0-Power-Bank-High-Capacity-12000mAh-Portable-Battery-and/282902414767?epid=1792348047&hash=item41de4c45af:g:KwUAAOSw6T9auuBy

For OTS, I leave the smaller hypergear in the bag as a backup or to charge my phone. It runs the mixpre6 6 channels for at least 5 hours.


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