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Schoeps KCY cable
« on: May 17, 2011, 04:57:04 PM »
Anyone know the pin assignment for a KCY cable???
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2011, 04:44:18 PM »
Seemingly harmless questions like that can often result in great liquidation of your bank account.   ;D

Look at page 18 here... while not perfect, it gives you a pretty good idea what's going on.
http://www.schoeps.de/documents/Schoeps_Manual_VMS5_E.pdf
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2011, 04:51:09 PM »
Your spot on Joe!!  Thinking about my next set of mics, thanks for the link
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2011, 05:02:49 PM »
I believe you can find it in the sonosax docs for the lemo sax.  Go and DL the manual for the Sonsosax.
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2011, 06:11:19 PM »
I believe you can find it in the sonosax docs for the lemo sax.  Go and DL the manual for the Sonsosax.

I looked at that.  I think that explains a L/R set of 3 pin plugs, and then says "we can also supply something to plug a KCY into".
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2011, 07:43:56 PM »
Seemingly harmless questions like that can often result in great liquidation of your bank account.   ;D

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2011, 07:44:29 AM »
Thanks again for the link Joe!!  Anyone know the Pin1 assignment for the KCY cable??
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2011, 04:51:51 PM »
Pin assignment in terms of color:

1-GND
2-White
3-Yellow
4-Brown
5-Green


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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2011, 05:42:59 PM »
Seemingly harmless questions like that can often result in great liquidation of your bank account.   ;D

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2011, 05:03:36 PM »
*bizump*

So the polarization and powering leads are shared across both caps? I only see 1 +60v (58 in the diagram) wire, so either I've read it wrong or it's sending polarizing voltage down just one wire for 2 caps to share.

Which brings my my actual question; what's the box at the split do? I'm assuming that it does something other then just connect the 2 cap wires in a stress resistant manner, as schoeps says that usage of the aki cables to go from the bodies to the binder plug evidently causes the operation to mimic the +5db bodies. Otherwise if the box didn't do anything special what would prevent someone from taking KC5 cables, splitting them, puting lemos connecting them, and creating their own extendable KC5s(ala this), and then using the pin-out from the VMS for an adaptor cable with 2 lemos (using the 4-pin CMC pin-out) on one end and a 5-pin binder (with shared polarization/powering) on the other, thus creating a set of (bastardized) kcy and kc5 cables in a single set without having to buy the aki cables?
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2011, 05:21:11 PM »
The junction box does nothing more than merge two shields to one and, in reverse, distribute the polarization voltage two two MK connectors. I've no idea why the AKI cables would add +5dB, but it's definitely possible to bastardize a single pair of KC5 cables as described. Freelunch (aka itgoesto11) has been thinking about doing this for some time.

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2011, 05:32:04 PM »
The junction box does nothing more than merge two shields to one and, in reverse, distribute the polarization voltage two two MK connectors. I've no idea why the AKI cables would add +5dB, but it's definitely possible to bastardize a single pair of KC5 cables as described. Freelunch (aka itgoesto11) has been thinking about doing this for some time.

Yeah, it's the change in sensitivity that throws me off.

I guess if I was considering it, I'd call Vark and have a casual chat, but I suspect someone will beat me to it well before I make my way around to running schoeps.
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2011, 05:42:26 PM »
If you ordered the cable, what cap's are ya thinking about? Already have some (own or can borrow)?

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2011, 06:49:10 PM »
If you ordered the cable, what cap's are ya thinking about? Already have some (own or can borrow)?
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2011, 02:41:58 PM »
I PHINALLY GOT MY KCY CABLE ;D 8)

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