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SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« on: March 30, 2008, 02:46:23 AM »
I'm looking at possibly getting a set of either CMC-4U (ATU853) or CMC-8 (AT943) Hypers (and maybe omni caps as well - gotta cover all bases!). From what I can tell both distort at loud volumes, but a $25 low sens mod can fix that. Dumb question #1, will this mod need to be done on the omni caps as well.
Dumb question#2: I like the look of the SPSB-11 mini battery box -nice & small, and note it takes a 12v battery - can this mess anything up, like my existing mics and/or the R-09? 

How do the mics compare sizewise?

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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2008, 07:06:27 AM »
The low-sens-mod is done in the 3.5mm-plug and not in the interchangeable mic-capsules. ;)
You can use both 12V and 9V bboxes.
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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2008, 11:12:16 AM »
How do the mics compare sizewise?

CMC-4U are larger than the CMC-8.  I have 853's and 943's and can take a picture when I get home for you. (at work now)
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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2008, 03:48:16 PM »
Thanks  :) that would be very cool.

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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2008, 12:51:34 AM »
Thanks  :) that would be very cool.

The first photo is an 853 and 943 side by side with a Washington for reference.

The second photo is the 943 on top with the 853 on the bottom.  The 853 is attached to an adapter ring and then to a 943 body.

Third photo for the heck of it is my MM-HLSC-1 off to the right. (recently Church modded)

While I had the camera out, I took pics of a $1 case I bought at a craft store that perfectly fits all my caps, windscreens, and clips.
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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2008, 01:19:28 AM »
Wow, thanks for that. Quite a difference in size  :o
Might go for the 943's as I'll be stealthing most of the time.

Thanks again   :)

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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2008, 08:07:46 AM »
Wow, thanks for that. Quite a difference in size  :o
Might go for the 943's as I'll be stealthing most of the time.

Thanks again   :)

That'd probably be best for your needs.  You can always get the larger 853 caps at a later date if need be.
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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2008, 12:49:52 AM »
Do your 943's have standard or lightweight cable?


Damn, the price of caps has gone up a bit, might grab the omni's at a later date.

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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2008, 08:03:45 AM »
Do your 943's have standard or lightweight cable?

When I got them in 2004 there wasn't a choice in cables.  I *think* it's the standard cable, but can't make a comparison with anything.
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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2008, 11:18:56 AM »
Get the standard wire (thats what I have). Don't worry, its easy to stealth. I must say that the wire seems very good (nice and rugged) while not being too 'thin' or too 'thick'.

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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2008, 06:30:19 PM »
Thanks for the info, I'll go for the standard.  ;D

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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2008, 07:05:49 PM »
Excellent pics Belexes, +T!

That's basically the same mic/cap set up I'm running right now (with some Oade omnis tossed in the mix too).

What store did you pick up that little box in?  I may have to go out and try to find one.

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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2008, 07:12:19 PM »
What store did you pick up that little box in?  I may have to go out and try to find one.

Hobby Lobby:

http://www.hobbylobby.com/site3/store/locations.cfm

Not West coast or upper East coast friendly yet.

NEVER open on Sundays. Has something to do with the founders being strict Mormons.
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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2008, 08:08:40 PM »
Thanks  :) that would be very cool.

The first photo is an 853 and 943 side by side with a Washington for reference.

The second photo is the 943 on top with the 853 on the bottom.  The 853 is attached to an adapter ring and then to a 943 body.

Third photo for the heck of it is my MM-HLSC-1 off to the right. (recently Church modded)

While I had the camera out, I took pics of a $1 case I bought at a craft store that perfectly fits all my caps, windscreens, and clips.

Hi there,
What exactly is that "Church modded" thing on your HLSC-1? Just curious because I also have a pair.
Thanks in advance ;)
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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2008, 08:10:15 PM »
Hey nice case and sticker Belexes !!  I use something very similar.  Mine is a fly fishing box lined with anti-static foam:



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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2008, 09:54:51 PM »
+T Javier. My case isn't big enough to fit my mini-guns. May have to think about something like what you did.  :hmmm:
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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2008, 09:56:28 PM »
Hi there,
What exactly is that "Church modded" thing on your HLSC-1? Just curious because I also have a pair.
Thanks in advance ;)

New mod for Chris. He lowered the noise floor on them and made a few other changes. I plan on using them for the first time this Friday since the mod. Will post a sample if interest is there.
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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2008, 10:22:10 PM »
Not West coast or upper East coast friendly yet.

NEVER open on Sundays. Has something to do with the founders being strict Mormons.

drats.

edit: on the West coast thing, not the Mormon thing. lol
« Last Edit: April 02, 2008, 10:24:21 PM by Keyser Soze »

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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2008, 11:16:23 PM »
Not West coast or upper East coast friendly yet.

NEVER open on Sundays. Has something to do with the founders being strict Mormons.

drats.

edit: on the West coast thing, not the Mormon thing. lol

No worries, I found it online for you and anyone else interested:

http://www.craftsetc.com/store/item.aspx?dep=50&cat=35&subcat=1&IsOnSale=0&IsFeatured=0&IsNew=0&ItemId=74600

You pay more in shipping than the darn thing is worth, but maybe buy a bunch of them and see if anyone else here wants them.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2008, 11:18:00 PM by Belexes »
Busman Audio BSC1-K1/K2/K3/K4 > HiHo Silver XLR's > Deck TBD

CA-14 (c,o)/MM-HLSC-1 (4.7k mod)/AT853(4.7k mod)(c,o,h,sc)/CAFS (o)/CA-1 (o) > CA-9100 (V. 4.1)/CA-9200/CA-UBB > Sony PCM-D50/Sony PCM-M10

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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #19 on: April 03, 2008, 01:42:30 PM »
Thanks for the link.  Think I'll check a few local craft store out around my neck of the woods first.  I'll probably end up paying a bit more the box, but save on shipping.

They always get you, one way or another.

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Re: SP-CMC-4U / SP-CMC-8 questions
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2008, 01:46:42 PM »
Hi there,
What exactly is that "Church modded" thing on your HLSC-1? Just curious because I also have a pair.
Thanks in advance ;)

New mod for Chris. He lowered the noise floor on them and made a few other changes. I plan on using them for the first time this Friday since the mod. Will post a sample if interest is there.

Huge interest on my side. I don't even know about such mod.
The HLSC-1 is pretty quiet and if Chris could made them even quieter, that should be great. ;)
Mics..........................SP-CMC-8, HLSC-1 and HLSO-MICRO
BB and Preamps........MM Micro bb / MM Custom Elite bb / Church 9100
                              
Recorders...................Tascam DR-100MKIII, Marantz PMD 620 MKII, Edirol R-09

 

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