Topic: Wav splitting on a Mac?

[scb]

i still don't see why mac users need to use cd wave.  tracking is simple in plenty of mac apps....

[Todd R]

i still don't see why mac users need to use cd wave.  tracking is simple in plenty of mac apps....

QFT.  When I first moved back to mac, I wanted CDWav since I liked it so much and was used to it.  Now I really don't have any real interest.  I'm using Amadeus for both editing and tracking, and it works great.  I haven't followed the latest releases of CDWav, but Amadeus gives me pretty much the same capabilities, plus it allows me to save directly to a variety of formats, including flac and mp3.  It even allows tagging I believe, though I haven't been using that feature.

Not to say Amadeus is the only choice, just reiterating that there are plenty of mac track splitting programs, and many might even supply functionality that goes beyond cdwav.

[Simp-Dawg]

how many of them are free though?

[page]

how many of them are free though?

Audacity (which I use as an all in one). To it's credit, it's the only one that tracks that is free off the top of my head.

[printguy]

how many of them are free though?

Some are free... But why not splurge and spend $20 to support a program developer?

[Simp-Dawg]

how many of them are free though?

Some are free... But why not splurge and spend $20 to support a program developer?

and i may do just that, if i cannot get the features i'm looking for for free.  i generally have no problem purchasing a piece of functional software, assuming it does exactly what i need it to do.  if a free alternative is available though, i will go that route.  at the same time, in the interest of supporting developers i would probably rather donate to a freeware developer than purchase a paid version if the freeware does just what i need. 

in this case, it's not so much about finding a mac alternative for splitting tracks, i'm posting this in the interest of generating a "proof of concept" for porting cd wave editor (or other great windows utilities) to the mac where a simple, free alternative doesn't exist, such as in this case.  i'm sure i can track with audacity but the workflow of cd wave editor is a compelling reason for me to want to try getting it to work on mac, and that's why i'm asking if anyone here has the knowledge and ability to "bottle" cd wave with the aforementioned wine bottler utility. 

[Əkoostikal]

I am a VERY pleased user of Amadeus.... It doesn't get any easier to track than that prog and splits on sector boundaries and export to flac with metadata. It's the only prog. I use to track shows on my OSX system.

[Todd R]

how many of them are free though?

Damn grad students -- always on a shoestring budget.

Well, CDwav is supposed to be $15 if you use it beyond the trial period, so technically it isn't free either.  Amadeus is $40, so not free, but only $25 more than CDwav and it is a full featured editor as well.  I guess Audacity is the ticket for free, though I don't know how user-friendly the tracking is.

Not to shoot down the wine bottle thing, though I have no idea how to accomplish it to get it to bottle up CDwav.  But I'm very happy as well with Amadeus -- it works great start to finish with getting shows transferred and tracked.

[Brian E.]

i didn't realize there was a way to just put markers in Audacity and then have it auto-split upon save.

[page]

I guess Audacity is the ticket for free, though I don't know how user-friendly the tracking is.

Open your giant wav file.

Hit Apple+B where you want a new track to begin. It creates a little marker below the channel (see pic below).

If you set it to CDDA Frames prior to placing the label and selecting "snap to", then you cut on sector boundaries as well. (also see pic below)

i didn't realize there was a way to just put markers in Audacity and then have it auto-split upon save.

All of this is easier to accomplish in the v1.3X and up world, 1.2.6 took more effort if I remember correctly as this and the "processing the wav file while it's loading" instead of just waiting till it's done opening as two features that made me upgrade.

[it-goes-to-eleven]

i still don't see why mac users need to use cd wave.  tracking is simple in plenty of mac apps....

The cdwave UI is really outstanding...   I can't really think of how it could be quicker for tracking shows.   Most alternatives are clunky in comparison.

[scb]

i still don't see why mac users need to use cd wave.  tracking is simple in plenty of mac apps....

The cdwave UI is really outstanding...   I can't really think of how it could be quicker for tracking shows.   Most alternatives are clunky in comparison.

i click on a spot for a new track and hit a keystroke for a track marker.  then simply export the markers.  i've been doing that in a few different mac apps since 1999.  nothing clunky about that, and I don't really see how it could be faster. 

I'm not saying CD WAV sucks, I just don't see how trying to get a windows app to work on the mac is a "better" solution than having the native mac app that works the same or even better in some cases (more functionality if you want it)

[page]

i still don't see why mac users need to use cd wave.  tracking is simple in plenty of mac apps....

The cdwave UI is really outstanding...   I can't really think of how it could be quicker for tracking shows.   Most alternatives are clunky in comparison.

i click on a spot for a new track and hit a keystroke for a track marker.  then simply export the markers.  i've been doing that in a few different mac apps since 1999.  nothing clunky about that, and I don't really see how it could be faster. 

I'm not saying CD WAV sucks, I just don't see how trying to get a windows app to work on the mac is a "better" solution than having the native mac app that works the same or even better in some cases (more functionality if you want it)

agreed

[it-goes-to-eleven]

i've been doing that in a few different mac apps since 1999.  nothing clunky about that, and I don't really see how it could be faster. 

Good UI design is a wonderful thing.  It rarely happens by chance.   It especially defies belief that a random selection of dated programs are all somehow equivalent at it.

Cdwave is designed to do one task very well..  Audacity pales in comparison.  Wavbreaker could match it, with some enhancements.  Those tools, like the others I have tried, require more steps and time to complete the task.

Doing the track split in the main processing program is ideal, but it is typically clunky in comparison.

[scb]

Good UI design is a wonderful thing.  It rarely happens by chance.   It especially defies belief that a random selection of dated programs are all somehow equivalent at it.

Does this mean I'm making it up?

The ability to create a marker and then export the markers is not a complex thing.  Most apps have that ability.  The rest of the interface to do processing might be "clunky," but you don't have to deal with the rest of the interface to just make some markers and export.  If you really want to get CD Wav working in "OS X," I'm sure you can.  But you might find that other mac apps do it just as well.