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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #75 on: October 14, 2011, 10:50:00 PM »
Nice!  Did Vark make all of those?

So what's goin on...  from left > right??
Is that two pairs of hacked KC5's?  One with a binder, one with mini xlr's?
Can you run both pairs of those cables > bodies?

My Vark KCY does not have any sort of board or anything either...  straight up splitter.

so the KC5's have ta4 connectors wired 1' from the amplifier end. this allows me to quickly and neatly wrap the cables up at the end of the night. Since I also own a KCY cable and miss using it with the cmc6's, I had Vark make me a female binder to dual ta4 mini xlr cable for use with the hacked kc5 cables. so now I can use either the kcy or hacked kc5 cables for splits. plus when I had the kc5 cables hacked, they wired me 20' extension cables so I can get a split of 70' if I ever needed. Now to figure out if I am going to keep the CMR's as well.

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #76 on: October 14, 2011, 10:52:25 PM »
... they wired me 20' extension cables so I can get a split of 70' if I ever needed. Now to figure out if I am going to keep the CMR's as well.

I approve... 70' is sick!

keep the cmrs :)

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #77 on: October 14, 2011, 11:08:22 PM »
Awesome, thanks for the rig Pr0n Louie ;D
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Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #78 on: October 14, 2011, 11:41:38 PM »
So the answer then is that if you get (2 of) the connectors and 18" of cable terminated into a mini-xlr from Vark, you could essentially source the rest elsewhere without the box if you so chose to.

interesting.

Awesome, thanks for the rig Pr0n Louie ;D

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #79 on: October 15, 2011, 08:01:33 AM »
Building a KCY from a pair if KC5's is very straight forward - I almost made a set but sold my extra set of KC5's.   I actually had Redding get together the parts and I believe it was about $250 in parts from Schoeps in addition to the KC5's - to make a a KCY and AKI.

This is using the Schoeps boards, WIMA Caps, the junction boxes, Schoeps provided Binders, and 4 conductor Schoeps cabling.

So is the "board" that you refer to only a board that allows you to solder pointor doesit have a capacitor on it. I am curious to see what a stock kcy junction box looks like inside

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #80 on: October 15, 2011, 09:56:51 AM »
Their method for strain relief on the cable insulation is grooves in the plastic that apply the perfect amount of pressure.

I would expect no less from Schoeps.  Is the Schoeps junction box metal, for shielding?

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #81 on: October 15, 2011, 11:06:40 AM »
Their method for strain relief on the cable insulation is grooves in the plastic that apply the perfect amount of pressure.

I would expect no less from Schoeps.  Is the Schoeps junction box metal, for shielding?

My Vark junction box seems to be delrin type plastic.  And since it's built with Schoeps cable/parts, I would imagine that it's identical to the Schoeps KCY.....  but maybe not??...    And the  strain relief is pretty perfect on the Vark as well IMO.
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #82 on: October 15, 2011, 11:14:41 AM »
I have opened a Schoeps KCY before and it has a board and a single WIMA Capacitor is soldered onto the board.

If I can find the pics I took I will post them

The box that Schoeps uses is VERY different to the VARK box.  Schoeps uses a custom all schoeps grey plastic (lined with EMI protective paint) you can't go to mouser or digikey and order it.  It is much smaller than the VARK box.

IMO there is no comparison in build quality to the VARK box - The Schoeps box is far superior.
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #83 on: October 15, 2011, 12:36:59 PM »
I have opened a Schoeps KCY before and it has a board and a single WIMA Capacitor is soldered onto the board.

If I can find the pics I took I will post them

The box that Schoeps uses is VERY different to the VARK box.  Schoeps uses a custom all schoeps grey plastic (lined with EMI protective paint) you can't go to mouser or digikey and order it.  It is much smaller than the VARK box.

IMO there is no comparison in build quality to the VARK box - The Schoeps box is far superior.

I am very interested in seeing some pics. wonder why Vark doesn't use the capacitor or if its needed.

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #84 on: October 15, 2011, 01:06:42 PM »
Me too!

I have opened a Schoeps KCY before and it has a board and a single WIMA Capacitor is soldered onto the board.

If I can find the pics I took I will post them

The box that Schoeps uses is VERY different to the VARK box.  Schoeps uses a custom all schoeps grey plastic (lined with EMI protective paint) you can't go to mouser or digikey and order it.  It is much smaller than the VARK box.

IMO there is no comparison in build quality to the VARK box - The Schoeps box is far superior.

I am very interested in seeing some pics. wonder why Vark doesn't use the capacitor or if its needed.
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #85 on: October 27, 2011, 09:56:21 PM »
I have opened a Schoeps KCY before and it has a board and a single WIMA Capacitor is soldered onto the board.

If I can find the pics I took I will post them

The box that Schoeps uses is VERY different to the VARK box.  Schoeps uses a custom all schoeps grey plastic (lined with EMI protective paint) you can't go to mouser or digikey and order it.  It is much smaller than the VARK box.

IMO there is no comparison in build quality to the VARK box - The Schoeps box is far superior.

did you ever open you kcy?

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #86 on: October 27, 2011, 10:28:37 PM »
I just found the pic - I know it's bad but it gives you an idea

The red blob is the WIMA Cap

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #87 on: October 27, 2011, 11:16:13 PM »
In the end, I'm glad I shelled out the $$ for the real deal Schoeps KCY!
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #88 on: November 03, 2011, 11:57:33 PM »
I'm going to snap a pic of the inside of my KCY Junction Box so you all can see the difference ;)
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: Schoeps KCY cable
« Reply #89 on: November 04, 2011, 05:28:46 PM »
Schoeps MK 4V & MK 41V ->
Schoeps 250|0 KCY's (x2) ->
Naiant +60v|Low Noise PFA's (x2) ->
DarkTrain Right Angle Stubby XLR's (x3) ->
Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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