Topic: New handheld recorder on horizon - NAGRA SD

[sunjan]

A couple of photos of the Nagra SD posted on flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nagritsrl/

[aaronji]

Nagra now has the SD listed on their website.  Some new photos in the .pdf download and some more details in the text.  I would be curious to see a manual to get an idea of the menu options...

[John Willett]

A couple of photos of the Nagra SD posted on flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/nagritsrl/

Thanks for this.

I saw the SD in the flesh at Frankfurt last month as well as the new EMP.

Due to the disappointment of the EMP only having a 16-bit recorder I am considering getting the SD to record from the EMP when I want a smaller recorder than my Nagra VI.

(the EMP photo is on the same Flickr pade as the SD).

[viceadmiraal61]

we have for sale a nagra sd with green mic for 600,- euro new in box....I don,t use it..have my great nagra VI ...info@sts-digital.nl

[cashandkerouac]

the Nagra brochure for the SD says "...it uses a selection of different plug-on Nagra microphones or a XLR cable for an external dynamic microphone or line input."  however, i don't see anything "XLR" on this recorder at all.  is it a misprint?

[Fried Chicken Boy]

^^ It's just the way the copy reads.  You are correct, there are no XLR inputs on the SD, but I believe Nagra is stating that they offer a special cable that plugs into their device and terminates in a XLR socket that you can plug a mic into.  Note that they specify "dynamic microphone"; no phantom power available.

On another note, was in B&H a few weeks ago when I looked at this and Nagra is also offering the LINO.  Something in the same arena as all the Sony, Roland, Tascam, etc handheld recorders, no doubt?

[H₂O]

Didn't someone vet the Lino and find out it's an OEM'd Chinese recorder with nagra branded firmware?

[jbell]

^^

http://www.aeq.eu/products/digital-portable-recorder

[noahbickart]

It is so offensive that a brand like nagra has taken someone else's gear, slapped a nagra badge on it and markets it as their own.

[OOK]

It is so offensive that a brand like nagra has taken someone else's gear, slapped a nagra badge on it and markets it as their own.

My guess is actually the reverse.  Nagra is a company with great heritage.  I am sure they may have designed  the recorder and had them built by a Chinese source company, which was a mistake.  Said company then ripped the design and sold it in Chinese markets and grey markets around the world under another name.  Think of all the Chinese mics that are actually rebranded designs of the same mic...  or Oktava mics.  Some Chinese company made very convincing clones of the MK012 and then flooded the market with them.  While I am not opposed to Chinese companies who make excellent quality gear their laws in terms of ripping off other companies don't seem to exist....

OOK

[JD]

I'm with OOK on this, the Chinese are notorious for rebranding, counterfeit cloning, reverse engineering and basically stealing the designs of the world's manufacturing base.

[John Willett]

the Nagra brochure for the SD says "...it uses a selection of different plug-on Nagra microphones or a XLR cable for an external dynamic microphone or line input."  however, i don't see anything "XLR" on this recorder at all.  is it a misprint?

The SD has a selection of cable options.

They plug into the twin 3.5mm jack sockets that the microphone uses and comes with a lockable connector.

You hav have:-
Mono microphone cable
Stereo microphone cable
Line cable with XLR-5F
Line cable with 2 x XLR-3F

I have the mono mic. cable and the Line cable with 2 x XLR-3F.

This is the mono mic. cable:-

[John Willett]

It is so offensive that a brand like nagra has taken someone else's gear, slapped a nagra badge on it and markets it as their own.

Nagra don't do this.

More like they went to a OEM manufacturer - took a basic body design and "Nagraised" it internally to make the SD.

The manufacturer then sells the standard model under their own name, but it would be quite different from he Nagra, who take great care with their audio quality.

[supo]

Is it me, or is Nagra sorta like the IPhone?  They have great stuff, but, really falling behind the rest of the world sitting on their laurels.  By now, they should have a 16 track box and leading the field.  A pre to expand their old unit to 6 mics?  Yippie - yi -ey.  Smirk.

[Xonic]

I took one of these units for a spin a while ago whilst trying to find a tiny little recorder with a really quick boot up time and a good set of internal microphones.
I can't comment on the rest of the gear, but I used the more expensive internal stereo microphone and nearly shot myself after listening to it. The hiss on this thing is unbelievable. I don't know if I had a dodgy unit or what, but I've seen other people complaining about it as well and here in the UK it's about £900 which is simply unacceptable for that poor level of quality.

I think the hiss was actually worse than some of the Marantz stuff or the h4n. Really surprised a company with such a good reputation would put something like that out there.
Also as an aside, the stereo mic looked like it would snap right off if knocked in the wrong way.