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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2003, 01:11:32 PM »
What if iRiver writes 24 bit firmware? Are there other things that seem unapealing about the iRiver unit? 5v DC is it's recharge/external power source. It's supposed to have a longer run time. It is firmware updateable.

I just sent an email off to their tech department to see if there's a logical reason for the 795MB limit. I'll let you all know what they come back with (if anything). I CC'ed their sales department too.



And after reading the entire manual I see that the bitrate range is from 32K - 320K.

The battery is built in and they're claiming 16 hours playback. The power adapter is 5V DC, 2A. So a battery pack could be built to runn off of and/or recharge the internal battery.
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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2003, 02:58:35 PM »
Okay.... from the manual (http://www.iriveramerica.com/download/iHP_100_EngUSA_030709aF.pdf) I see that you can choose what format to record to. They seem to refer to MP3 and WAV.

File length limits are very happily included:

Recording is automatically stopped if:
- The iHP-100's memory is full.
- when the recorded MP3 file size is over 195MB
- when the recorded WAV file size is over 795MB
- The recorded time is longer than 5 hours.
- The battery is low.

795 Megabytes.... that's about 90 minutes isn't it? I guess it depends on the bitrate.  Can anyone with some knowledge in this arena help out? It looks promising....

If it limits it to 795MB per WAV file, but has 10gig capacity, wouldn't it be more of a "tape flip" situation where you would just start a new file?  Thoughts?
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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2003, 03:17:28 PM »
The nomad is 5v, but a slight bitch to power extrenally.  The rpices on batteries should rop though as soon as a clone from some battery company is developed...can't be to far off!  Maybe this unit is promising, but I don't see how it is really al that relevant with the nomad 3 already out there and bigger in storage space, and firewire...i could go on!

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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2003, 03:25:10 PM »
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The rpices on batteries should rop though as soon as a clone from some battery company is developed...can't be to far off!

Who could make money producing a clone for an MP3 player?  Honestly?  Considering the fact they change from month to month, let alone year to year.  

These batteries are becoming harder and harder to find (notice how many online stores are out of stock).  I believe they'll stop producing the JB3 probably before this or the next year is out with a newer model to replace it.

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with the nomad 3 already out there and bigger in storage space, and firewire...i could go on!

So with this logic, there should only be a DA-P1 out there for DAT's right?  Because I mean, it's better then the rest.

Past that, just look at your statement:
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if the jb3 ever wrote 24 bit firmware, who would even look at this unit

That's an odd argument.. I could argue that if the price of DPA's dropped to $300 a mic I wouldn't even look at the Oktava's.. Know what I mean?  

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I don't mean to bust your balls, but your just wrong on a few things  :coolguy:  :clapping:
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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2003, 11:33:41 AM »
Daryan,

Not to mention that there are varying levels of tapers and budgets out there. I'm probably shooting myself in the foot here but I don't tape for the same reasons as most.

I like to get a good quality tape that allows me to enjoy the show that I was at and also to give to friends. My gear now is an AT822 Stereo condenser straight into a Sony M1.

It's simple and if the mix is good and I'm in the middle of the PAs, I get really decent tapes. I'm happy with than. I'm looking to stay portable and be able to get geed quality and again stay under $1000 for the entire rig. No tapes and I'll be happier.

I don't need firewire. USB 2.0 is quicker. And bit for bit is obviously not in the picture. So while some wont give this unit a second look, others certainly will.

Just my $.02

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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2003, 12:00:37 PM »
Trogdor comes in the niiiiite!

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Burninating the peasants!

Trogdor!!!!



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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #21 on: August 16, 2003, 03:02:12 PM »
Trogdor was a man
Ehh, he was a dragon man
Er, he was just a DRAGON
Um, but he was still
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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #22 on: August 16, 2003, 05:56:41 PM »
forgot armen was all about the fantasy metal...





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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2003, 06:44:44 PM »
There are some who'd think the Trogdor song a rockin' tune... I don't know if I'd say that I'm one of 'em!
Actually, I'm a pretty picky motherfucker. Could you tape some of the bands I mentioned in the media trading section when they come through? ;D hehe. They're on the top of my listening list right now... metal is just silly sometimes.

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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2003, 07:37:09 PM »
here is a  VERY low quality mp3 clip from the very begining a tape of one of my favorite local bands (confusatron http://www.pageofterror.com ) before starting their set , this is vaguely on topic becaue: I taped it with a JB3  AND BECAUSE THEY ARE SINGING THE TROGDOR SONG which is the new topic of this thread  ;D
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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2003, 09:07:57 AM »
If it limits it to 795MB per WAV file, but has 10gig capacity, wouldn't it be more of a "tape flip" situation where you would just start a new file?  Thoughts?

Yeah, that's right... but it's still an annoyance to have to worry about it. I mean the point of solid state (for me) is to get rid of the annoyances associated with tapes. The cover of the manual for this unit has a fancy little "Firmware Updateable" logo that someone in their marketing department got paid for so unless there's some crazy limitation that is forcing it to that size I'm guessing it will be changed.

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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2003, 09:15:22 AM »

I don't need firewire. USB 2.0 is quicker.

Um, no.  
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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
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Re:Potential future JB3 competition...
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2003, 11:14:14 AM »
what is the link to that website with the Trogdooor movie?
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