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Title: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: stevetoney on August 11, 2011, 12:28:33 PM
I just finished sifting through all five volumes of the Sony M10 forums and several other M10 threads to get a summary of the microSD cards that people have used successfully and a couple that have given people problems.  Here ya go.  Please feel free to add to this list with your own experiences.


Reported Working Fine

32gb PNY Class 10 (tonedeaf)
https://secure.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=PNMSD32GB10&N=0&InitialSearch=yes

16gb Sandisc (gmm6797)
http://www.meritline.com/sandisk-16gb-microsdhc-card---p-32630.aspx

SanDisk Micro SDHC Model SDSDQB-4096-AW11 (flashmd)

sandisc 8 gig (mloewen)

SanDisk Class 2 8MB card (earmonger)

ADATA 8gb Class 6 MicroSDHC card (cheesecadet)

sandisc 4gb class 2 (willnbmb)

16 gig sandisk (rastasean)
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-microSDHC-Memory-SDSDQ-016G-Packaging/dp/B001L1H0SC

Sandisk Mobile Ultra 16GB (artstar)

Class 4 "TopRam" 16G cards (ironbut)

Transcend 4 GB, class 6 (bucsab12)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013DXVYK/ref=oss_product

Lexar 16 GB card (dogmusic)

class 6 transcend 8gb (su6oxone)

SD card I like the kingstons  (cgresq192)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134807

transcend 8gb class 6 micro sd (georgios)

Transcend 32 GB micro SDHC Class 2 Flash Memory Card with SD Adapter TS32GUSDHC2 (Mike Davis)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042AJYOC

Transcend - Flash memory card ( microSDHC to SD adapter included ) - 16 GB - Class 6 – microSDHC (Mike Davis)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PLIG5Y

16gb Kingston (Audball)
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Mobility-Kit-microSDHC-Adapters/dp/B0028QWJTO

2 x 16gb & 1 x 8gb Kingston (Ziggz)

Transcend 16GB microsdhc class 6 (spyder9)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208475&cm_re=transcend_microsdhc-_-20-208-475-_-Product

Patriot 16GB Class 4 (baconus66)
http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Signature-MicroSDHC-Standard-PSF16GMCSDHC43P/dp/B00413PF6G/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1303505672&sr=8-4

16gb A-Data MicroSDHC, Class 6 (F. O. Bean)


Reported Not Working Fine

(fatah ruark)
Kingston. It's this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134717
Maybe I just got a dud. It's a Class 4 card. I'm under the impression that is fast enough (or do I need something faster). 

[Update: The first one I ordered was a dud. Got another of the same exact card and it's been rock solid ever since.]



Miscellaneous Notes

Class 2 cards are really S-L-O-W at transferring files to your PC, compared to the Class 6 cards, but half the price for any given size. (Mike Davis)

(fmaderjr)
I have had lots of trouble having my Transcend 16 GB class 2 card recognized. Works perfectly but usually takes 3-4 tries to be recognized.  I just leave it in the recorder and use the recorder as the card reader.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: bryonsos on August 11, 2011, 12:39:45 PM
I've been using this one, and haven't had any problems so far:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/PNY+-+16GB+microSDHC+Class+10+Memory+Card/2300848.p?id=1218320077090&skuId=2300848&st=microsd&cp=2&lp=2
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: rastasean on August 11, 2011, 02:08:35 PM
Nice work!

This link has been added to the FAQ thread: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=147551.0
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: Brian G on August 11, 2011, 02:53:17 PM
I use this one with no Issues.

SanDisk 16gb Class 4    Model: SDSDQ-016G
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on August 12, 2011, 09:41:27 AM

Reported Not Working Fine

(fatah ruark)
Kingston. It's this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820134717
Maybe I just got a dud. It's a Class 4 card. I'm under the impression that is fast enough (or do I need something faster). 


The first one I ordered was a dud. Got another of the same exact card and it's been rock solid ever since.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: hi and lo on August 12, 2011, 10:57:39 AM
The take-away from this thread? Buy a Sandisk!
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: George on August 12, 2011, 11:11:01 AM
This is the transcend I'm using:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820208453

Or: Transcend 8GB Micro SDHC Flash Card Model TS8GUSDHC6

I ordered two and they work flawlessly and transfer rates are around 15MB or so.  Pretty zippy. 
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: stevetoney on August 12, 2011, 11:51:41 AM
The take-away from this thread? Buy a Sandisk!

Just be careful...I've read that Sandisk is counterfeited rampantly on ebay, so best not to buy Sandisk off ebay from China.

Buyers have reported that the counterfeits work, but they're often Class 2 in spite of claims they're Class 10 or something similar.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: hi and lo on August 12, 2011, 12:04:29 PM
I would never recommend the use of eBay for purchases of this nature.

Buy your new equipment from a reputable retailer like b&h or newegg. Leave eBay for the vintage stuff.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: rastasean on August 12, 2011, 12:32:51 PM
I would never recommend the use of eBay for purchases of this nature.

Buy your new equipment from a reputable retailer like b&h or newegg. Leave eBay for the vintage stuff.

You could buy the cards from ebay and be fine. I wouldn't recommend buying it from someone in China or who is selling a lot of the same cards. Also, if you do get the card, there are ways to test it to see its actual read/write speeds.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B) on August 13, 2011, 10:16:21 AM
I don't see why you'd buy something off eBay when a perfectly good card is available from a reputable retailer such as NewEgg for $12 (shipped).

If you're so cheap that $12 is too much money...you need to find a different hobby. I would suggest walking...or better yet...sitting.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: stevetoney on August 13, 2011, 11:00:37 AM
 :) :)  Mike, I don't think Sean's comment had anything to do with being cheap or needing to save a couple bucks.  I took the comment to be more pointing out that Ebay can be a good resource with dealers that are every bit as reputable as newegg, but just be aware that there are frauds out there that use ebay. 

Personally, I find the frauds to be fairly easy to ferret out using some basic ebay/internet precautions, a questioning attitude, and some common sense.

I know alot of people that absolutely refuse to use ebay out of fear of the predator.  I personally kinda think they're crazy and depriving themselves of a good buying/selling resource, but that's just me.

That said, I don't disagree with your logic that, for a small dollar item, you might just want to go with a newegg and eliminate all possibility of getting ripped off from an ebay seller.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: sunjan on August 18, 2011, 02:30:01 PM
FWIW, I bought a 32GB Chinese knock-off Sandisk card on ebay for $14.50.
I didn't intend to have this for critical use, but I've tried it in my M10 and it works fine.
For proper taping, I'll use something else though.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: gmm6797 on September 12, 2011, 11:01:42 AM
FWIW, I bought a 32GB Chinese knock-off Sandisk card on ebay for $14.50.
I didn't intend to have this for critical use, but I've tried it in my M10 and it works fine.
For proper taping, I'll use something else though.

Link? details?  Id love one for my backup
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: sunjan on September 13, 2011, 02:13:19 AM
Sorry, seems that this particular seller is no longer registered.
The cheapest BIN I could find at the moment is $27.99:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170695842757
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: gmm6797 on September 13, 2011, 10:21:54 AM
and 28.99 now... yeesh, the damn US dollar
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: gmm6797 on September 25, 2011, 01:08:46 AM
Sandisk 32GB class 4... came with my Thunderbolt HTC phone from Verizon, but works in the M10, 14+ hours (but realized the card had data on it, so probably would allow more time)
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: sunjan on October 07, 2011, 09:02:44 AM
FWIW, I bought a 32GB Chinese knock-off Sandisk card on ebay for $14.50.
I didn't intend to have this for critical use, but I've tried it in my M10 and it works fine.

Famous last words.  :P :P :P Used the Chinese card as a backup this weekend, and two out of four files were corrupted. Lucky to have other tapers covering for me.
For critical taping, I'm using Kingston MicroSDHC 8GB (Class 4) right now, no problems so far!
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: dactylus on October 08, 2011, 11:04:01 AM

"Chinese knock-off"

Sometimes you really do get what you pay for...
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: stancourtney on January 25, 2012, 04:01:15 PM
Ok, I ordered the new 64gb SanDisk and it does not work in my M-10.  I do very long field nature recordings. The 32gb SanDisk works great so I was rather disappointed that the 64 gb was a no go. I bought it from B & H so at least I can return it.

Stan Courtney

www.stancourtney.com
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: gmm6797 on January 25, 2012, 04:10:53 PM
Ok, I ordered the new 64gb SanDisk and it does not work in my M-10.  I do very long field nature recordings. The 32gb SanDisk works great so I was rather disappointed that the 64 gb was a no go. I bought it from B & H so at least I can return it.

IMHO, being that the 64gb are so new, I bet a lot of "current" devices wont read them... but probably something a firmware can fix
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: stancourtney on January 25, 2012, 04:15:11 PM
Right, but I don't think Sony does firmware updates.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: gmm6797 on January 25, 2012, 04:27:51 PM
guess i never realized that... i guess we are all stuck :(
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: morst on February 13, 2012, 03:46:28 PM
Ok, I ordered the new 64gb SanDisk and it does not work in my M-10.  I do very long field nature recordings. The 32gb SanDisk works great so I was rather disappointed that the 64 gb was a no go. I bought it from B & H so at least I can return it.
The Sandisk 64GB card is not compatible because it is not a MicroSDHC card, it is a MicroSDXC card. Cards over 32GB have to be the new XC specification, and older gear like our little Sony will not be reading those due to hardware incompatibility. Note the logo in the graphic says XC.

Meanwhile, I wonder what the "I" is for? Speed class?

(http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/public/-0oia8ZSiO6QTqiAv7x3ewFMvH22dDQsxx-fY-7hY8Fu9C3juE1vzkneeOgUPsm6VfB2yzKVwrwKxs16CtUX_a6ubUGbUI8cBjFGj6fX0U2f_pyOYMTztrpigkySuLHk)
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: stepeanut on February 25, 2012, 06:07:44 AM
Just put a Samsung 8GB MicroSDHC class 6 in my M10.  Recognised straight away, formatted no problem, tested fine.
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: chinariderstl on July 12, 2012, 05:01:13 PM
Marking thread.
Title: Re: Transcend 8gig SDHC card question
Post by: Thom Day on September 17, 2012, 01:51:02 PM
We have a Marantz PMD 661 recorder. It came with a Marantz 4gig card and that works fine.
I tried using a Transcend 8 gig class 10 card and it records and plays fine. Problem happens when trying to download the file into the computer. Macbook pro with Intel processor and Mac G4.
The Marantz card is recognized immediately. The Transcend card either isn't recognized, or takes forever. Using the recorder's USB output to transfer the files.
Thanks
Thom
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: Mike Davis on September 26, 2012, 03:05:42 AM
I am currently using the SanDisk 64GB microSDXC ("XC" not "HC") card in my Sony PCM-M10 - and it's working beautifully!  

(http://lh4.googleusercontent.com/public/-0oia8ZSiO6QTqiAv7x3ewFMvH22dDQsxx-fY-7hY8Fu9C3juE1vzkneeOgUPsm6VfB2yzKVwrwKxs16CtUX_a6ubUGbUI8cBjFGj6fX0U2f_pyOYMTztrpigkySuLHk)

SIXTY-FOUR GB!

Here's how I did it:  http://www.head-fi.org/t/456327/sony-pcm-m10-as-portable-player/120#post_8727898

And here's how I use it:

(http://cdn.head-fi.org/4/46/460c9207_IMG_8229_Sony_PCM_M10_Millian_Acousitcs_Interconnect_iBasso_PB2_Toxic_Cables_Silver_Poison_Audeze_LCD-2_v1-1024x768.jpeg)

Sony PCM-M10 (Japan) PCM Recorder/Player, using the unheralded Line Out from its wonderful delta-sigma DAC of proprietary Sony design (bypassing the internal headphone amp)

Milian Acousitcs interconnect (USA) SPOFC (silver-plated oxygen-free copper) Kevlar-sleeved interconnect with Switchcraft 3.5mm one straight and one rt. angle connector

iBasso PB2 Pelican (China) headphone amplifier (quad push-pull design with balanced output) modded with 4x LME49990 op-amps in the input voltage gain stage and 4x HA5002 op-amps as buffers (for current gain), producing ~2500mW RMS (more than 80 times the power of a typical iDevice or other 30mW MP3 player) at a "vanishing low" THD+N of 0.00001% in the LME49990 op-amps. 

Toxic Cables Silver Poison (UK) cryogenically-treated unidirectional UPOCC (ultra pure Ohno continuous cast) 99.99998% Silver wire headphone cables terminated for balanced output to...

Audez'e LCD-2 Rev.1 (USA) Planar Magnetic Headphones

Yes...  the Sony PCM-M10 Line Out is THAT GOOD as a source!  It's a wonderful portable transport for 44.1/16 rips or 96/24 hi-rez downloads, in WAV format.

Mike
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: gmm6797 on September 27, 2012, 12:51:15 PM
I am currently using the SanDisk 64GB microSDXC ("XC" not "HC") card in my Sony PCM-M10 - and it's working beautifully!

Do you even get the batteries to run as long as it takes for the card to fill up?  Isnt that about 14 hours of time to fill the card?
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: George on September 27, 2012, 02:01:28 PM
From the link he provided:

"That's it - I was then able to load up the card with nearly 64GB of WAV files (a transfer time of 1 hour, from hard drive to SD card)."
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: stancourtney on October 01, 2012, 06:24:58 PM
I received my 64 gb this afternoon, formatted it and it works great.

Stan Courtney

www.stancourtney.com
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: Mike Davis on October 04, 2012, 12:18:38 AM

Yay!  Glad to hear it!

Mike
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: rigpimp on October 24, 2012, 06:10:27 PM
Mike, is that SanDisk 64GB microSDXC Class 6 or Class 10?
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: dyneq on October 31, 2012, 07:10:27 PM
This 16GB Class 10 card is working fine for me:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058GH4U0/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

John
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: F.O.Bean on October 31, 2012, 07:38:57 PM
A-Data 32gb Class 4 works fine for me. I also have [2] A-Data 16gb Class 4 as well!
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: spyder9 on April 15, 2013, 10:39:46 PM
Samsung 32GB microsdhc 10 class  MB-MSBGA/KR 8806071556239

Bought two of them recently from an eBay vendor.  They will format and are recognized by the M10.

Unfortunately, during continuous recording, only the first file is written cleanly.  All subsequent files written are corrupted during continuous recording.   Ran them yesterday afternoon, and again in the overnight, with both my recorders rolling.  Today, I put in my trusty Transcend 16gb Class 6 cards, and they recorded and wrote continuous without any file problems.

NOTE:  I did put one in my Samsung Galaxy S2 phone.  Formatted with Jelly Bean with no issues, except only 30.2 storage space.  Copied an entire show I recorded, 16 bit flac.  Played it with Winamp Android app with no issues.

Skalinder-shrugs on this card     ??? 
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: Bullet1979 on April 20, 2013, 09:20:00 AM
I have a card that a previous user stated works perfectly that consistently gets format error.  I've tried 2 cards of the same model and have tried reformatting, yet in my brand new M10 (received 2 days ago from Adorama) neither of them work.

SanDisk 16GB Micro SDHC Flash Card Model SDSDQM-016G-B35N - no go!

However, I did have a SanDisk 64GB MicroSDXC and followed the directions on here and that card works with no issues.  I really wish I could use the 16GB cards though seeing as I have 2 of them and that's a bit more practical for my applications.

Edit:  Strangely enough, I had the M10 perform the formatting for the 16GB cards and now they both work.  I would have tried this earlier but didn't realize the option to format is under "Detail Menu."  It's a good thing the M10 is better at recording than it is for menu navigation!  Format the card in a PC: Format Error every time; Format the card in the M10: works A-OK!
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: d4b0 on August 15, 2016, 06:30:39 PM
Have anyone tried to use 128gb card with pcm-m10?
Title: Re: Sony M10 MicroSD Card Summary (what works and doesn't)
Post by: pdastoor on August 27, 2016, 02:49:21 AM
I have always always used sandisk cards for everything. Audio, computer, photography and they have never let me down, both micro and regular sd. They work fine with my m10, I used a 32gb class 10 microsd sandisk for my m10