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Edit: Here is the link for the Naztech: http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-PB15000-Universal-Charger-Extended/dp/B007URKIGC

original post:
"I've been using Lenmars for the last few years after my awful experience with the Tekkeons. The Lenmars are now dying one by one so I need some replacements. Anyone use these?

http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-Universal-4000mAh-Rechargeable-Portable/dp/B000EIKQRA"
« Last Edit: February 11, 2015, 05:43:54 PM by jsfrank »
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2015, 01:10:33 AM »
Never used 'em but I trust NiMH chemistry more than I do Li-Ion.

I may have to pick one or two of these up for testing with my V3... Thanks for the link. Report back if you get, and test one before I have a chance to.

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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2015, 10:02:43 AM »
Jeff, at the end of the first post on this thread I list a bunch of batteries.  I can build a V3 cable for any of these that are 6-12 volts
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2015, 11:15:38 AM »
Never used 'em but I trust NiMH chemistry more than I do Li-Ion.

I may have to pick one or two of these up for testing with my V3... Thanks for the link. Report back if you get, and test one before I have a chance to.


Found out from Ted that those have a fixed cable that is hard to modify so that put the kibosh on that. He recommended I check out Naztech:

http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-PB15000-Universal-Charger-Extended/dp/B007URKIGC

Looks perfect!

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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 05:37:29 PM »
Never used 'em but I trust NiMH chemistry more than I do Li-Ion.

I may have to pick one or two of these up for testing with my V3... Thanks for the link. Report back if you get, and test one before I have a chance to.


Found out from Ted that those have a fixed cable that is hard to modify so that put the kibosh on that. He recommended I check out Naztech:

http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-PB15000-Universal-Charger-Extended/dp/B007URKIGC

Looks perfect!



I just ordered one. Hoping it has the same power out that that the Lenmars have. Otherwise I'll have to put Ted to work again.
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2015, 06:05:24 PM »
Never used 'em but I trust NiMH chemistry more than I do Li-Ion.

I may have to pick one or two of these up for testing with my V3... Thanks for the link. Report back if you get, and test one before I have a chance to.


Found out from Ted that those have a fixed cable that is hard to modify so that put the kibosh on that. He recommended I check out Naztech:

http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-PB15000-Universal-Charger-Extended/dp/B007URKIGC

Looks perfect!



I just ordered one. Hoping it has the same power out that that the Lenmars have. Otherwise I'll have to put Ted to work again.

Way longer run times then the old DVD batteries!!  You could power your V3 and 661 with this battery also.
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2015, 08:11:51 PM »
Way longer run times then the old DVD batteries!!  You could power your V3 and 661 with this battery also.

Cool. I use an EasyAcc Power Bank for the 661 that has been awesome. It's 12,000 mAh and usually hasn't even lost a bar when I tape a show. I was hoping I could use another one of those to power the v3 until Ted informed me that it wasn't enough voltage.

http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc%C2%AE-12000mAh-Portable-Capacity-Smartphone/dp/B008YRG5JQ
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2015, 01:07:04 AM »
Got my new cable from Ted and I am in business. It feels so good to finally have this situation solved.
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2015, 03:03:29 PM »
Way longer run times then the old DVD batteries!!  You could power your V3 and 661 with this battery also.

Cool. I use an EasyAcc Power Bank for the 661 that has been awesome. It's 12,000 mAh and usually hasn't even lost a bar when I tape a show. I was hoping I could use another one of those to power the v3 until Ted informed me that it wasn't enough voltage.

http://www.amazon.com/EasyAcc%C2%AE-12000mAh-Portable-Capacity-Smartphone/dp/B008YRG5JQ

Looks like there is a new model and it is higher power (15,000 mAh) and also selling for less. $29.99 sounds really good.
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You could power a 661 with it, but it only does 5 volts, so that wouldn't work for the V3.

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I'm not sure if the same info applies to the V2. 

I have this battery pack:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BB5VQCE/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


My V2 is a 12v version low serial number unit.  Assuming I can find the box and adapters, can a cable be made to power the V2?  I've only used the battery pack with my iPad.   Never used it with anything else requiring more juice. 

I plan on sending in my V2 to Grace for a once over to make sure everything is still working fine.  Should I just leave it at 12v or have it switched to 6v?   If switched to 6v I'm assuming I can't use the battery pack.   But what do I know.  Finally, what would be the run time if using the battery back?

Thanks.
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I just got off the phone with Grace.  They want to look at the IntoCircuit battery and said they could probably make me a cable.  Pretty cool.

I didnt ask about running a  6v V2 with the battery, but I will when they call me after they take a look at it.   
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I'm not sure if the same info applies to the V2. 

I have this battery pack:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BB5VQCE/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


My V2 is a 12v version low serial number unit.  Assuming I can find the box and adapters, can a cable be made to power the V2?  I've only used the battery pack with my iPad.   Never used it with anything else requiring more juice. 

I plan on sending in my V2 to Grace for a once over to make sure everything is still working fine.  Should I just leave it at 12v or have it switched to 6v?   If switched to 6v I'm assuming I can't use the battery pack.   But what do I know.  Finally, what would be the run time if using the battery back?

Thanks.
If they can switch it to 6v, I'd go that route, 6v is a lot easier to deal with than 12v. From choosing batteries to the weight.
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Grace liked the battery pack.  They made me a power cable and did a once over of the pre.  Now, how do I figure out how long this battery will last me?  They said a very long time.  V2 is still 12 volt.
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I have a 6 volt V3 that I previously powered with those heavy lead acid batteries... which have finally died. I saw the Tekkeon batteries on Grace Design's site which are discontinues... but just saw these batteries from Powerstream that look to be the exact same battery.

http://www.powerstream.com/PST-MP3500.htm

Has anyone used these? What do you recommend for a 6 volt V3. I don't want to toast it by using something that's higher voltage...

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Has anyone used these? What do you recommend for a 6 volt V3. I don't want to toast it by using something that's higher voltage...

I haven't run that specific battery, but when I had my V3 I ran it with a 9v Li-ion battery.  Works great, won't fry (as long as you have a good cable with proper polarity).  The extra volts just produce a bit more heat.

Note the low battery indicator on the V3 won't function properly unless you calibrate it.  I never bothered to calibrate mine, since I used the battery meters on the battery itself.  Grace has battery calibration directions on their site, if you're so inclined.
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On ebay you can find MP3300 for $20

I have a 6 volt V3 that I previously powered with those heavy lead acid batteries... which have finally died. I saw the Tekkeon batteries on Grace Design's site which are discontinues... but just saw these batteries from Powerstream that look to be the exact same battery.

http://www.powerstream.com/PST-MP3500.htm

Has anyone used these? What do you recommend for a 6 volt V3. I don't want to toast it by using something that's higher voltage...

Thanks!!!
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3 (edit. Naztech PB15000 is the solution!)
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2015, 02:19:37 AM »
I've been using the 9volt DVD batteries for years, but they're getting old.  Do you guys think my cable for those will work with the Naztech?  just not sure if dc outs are a universal size.  Thanks for any insight.

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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3 (edit. Naztech PB15000 is the solution!)
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2015, 06:37:56 AM »
Your answer is here:  http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=150794.0   

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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3 (edit. Naztech PB15000 is the solution!)
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2015, 04:15:01 PM »
Thanks drewloo, should have known that would have become a topic.  Looks like its time for another cable.
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2016, 04:12:48 PM »
Never used 'em but I trust NiMH chemistry more than I do Li-Ion.

I may have to pick one or two of these up for testing with my V3... Thanks for the link. Report back if you get, and test one before I have a chance to.


Found out from Ted that those have a fixed cable that is hard to modify so that put the kibosh on that. He recommended I check out Naztech:

http://www.amazon.com/Naztech-PB15000-Universal-Charger-Extended/dp/B007URKIGC

Looks perfect!



I just ordered one. Hoping it has the same power out that that the Lenmars have. Otherwise I'll have to put Ted to work again.
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3 (edit. Naztech PB15000 is the solution!)
« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2016, 06:20:46 PM »
I was hoping this thread would answer this, but it didn't.

Are any of the new batteries considerably lighter or smaller than the dvd batteries we've been using to power the v3?
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Re: 9 volt DVD battery power for V3 (edit. Naztech PB15000 is the solution!)
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2016, 06:55:18 AM »
I was hoping this thread would answer this, but it didn't.

Are any of the new batteries considerably lighter or smaller than the dvd batteries we've been using to power the v3?

Yes and no.  From my experience refurbishing batteries, the weight and size of the battery is taken up mostly from the cells.  I think I read that Li-poly chemistry has a better power quotient (or whatever it's called) than Li-ion, but I also think I read that it's not by much.  That means that, in general, battery technology hasn't changed much in terms of new chemistries resulting in smaller batteries that have more stored energy than the 18650 type Li-ion cells you have in your DVD battery. 

So yes and no.  Yes, you can buy smaller and lighter batteries than the DVD battery.  But no, you shouldn't expect proportionally longer run-times.  The smaller the battery physically, in general, the smaller the capacity will be.  Not a rule, but a generality.  Look at the specs of the battery you're considering and compare the specs for physical size and capacity with that of the DVD battery for the definitive answer.  You'll want to figure that into your purchase of a new battery. You can also consider sending your old DVD battery to me to refurb with new cells.  It's usually a cheaper option than buying new and the cells I've been using increases the capacity of the original DVD battery.

 

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