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Panic Taper - Need Some Mic/Power Supply Suggestions...
« on: March 25, 2015, 05:15:16 PM »
Hey All.  I'm drowning in a sea of unending choices, information, prices, etc.  I'm hoping to benefit from your experience & expertise.

Long story short, I'm going to start taping Panic shows again pretty shortly, and have to buy some new mics.  I simply don't know what to choose, and why.  My current mics are years old, and simply don't function anymore.  (Mini cardioid stereo.)

I'm recording into a Roland/Edirol R-09HR digital recorder.  http://www.rolandus.com/products/r-09hr/

I need to remain somewhat budget-conscious, though I am certainly open to a power supply/bass roll-off box, if need be.

What would you recommend for someone like me, who's getting back into taping, and who wants to get reliable, reasonably high quality without breaking the bank?  Reasons behind your suggestions?

Many thanks in advance for your help & feedback.

Adam

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Re: Panic Taper - Need Some Mic/Power Supply Suggestions...
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2015, 10:11:06 PM »
For the very budget conscious minded taper:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=172254.0

$99 gets you back in the game with a new set of mini-cards.

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Mics: Microtech Gefell M21 (with Nbob actives) | Church Audio CA-11 (cards) (with CA UBB)
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Re: Panic Taper - Need Some Mic/Power Supply Suggestions...
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2015, 11:27:42 AM »
Many thanks!  I'll read that shortly.  After doing some more reading on here, it seems that many people are steering toward the Church Audio stuff, and the CA 14 pair seem like a good choice.  I wouldn't be opposed to spending about $300, but I don't really want to spend much more than that at this point.

It's also pretty obvious that many people are die-hard Schoeps fans, and I suppose peerless quality is the reason, but unless there are cheaper Schoeps options than what I've already run across, I'm not in a position to drop approx. $1,000 on mics, power supply, etc.

Any other suggestions?  Thanks in advance for any advice.

Adam
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Re: Panic Taper - Need Some Mic/Power Supply Suggestions...
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2015, 11:38:07 AM »
I used the MBHO's for years and really enjoyed them.  I'm not familiar with this exact pair and how they compare to the 603's.  Somewhat similar sound to Schoeps with maybe a bit less low end.  Great value..

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=172193.0

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Re: Panic Taper - Need Some Mic/Power Supply Suggestions...
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2015, 12:35:18 PM »
Either Nakamichi CM300 or clones.  Classic mics...were used to record many Dead concerts.

Spyder9 has a re-branded pair for $150 here or they show up on ebay all the time for around $75 to $100 each...

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=172296.0

One of the best sounding recordings I made with them.

https://archive.org/details/sts92012-06-29.me80_24bit


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Re: Panic Taper - Need Some Mic/Power Supply Suggestions...
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2015, 01:30:45 PM »
Fantastic!  Thanks so much guys.  This was exactly the kind of response I was hoping for.
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Re: Panic Taper - Need Some Mic/Power Supply Suggestions...
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2015, 02:45:09 AM »
CA-14's are outstanding for the price. My CA14's running through the CA-9100 preamp into my Sony PCM M10 has produced some of the most consistently great recordings. I've had them up against different, more expensive rigs to compare, and they have always delivered solid results.
You can't go wrong with those mics, but be prepared to wait approx 6 weeks for them. There was a CA9100 up in the yard sale recently… here you go: http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=172235.msg2132876#msg2132876
 Church discontinued those, so if you can snag one you should.

Another option is the AT853 package from tgakidis. I bought one from him a couple of months ago and am so happy with that purchase. Qualitly is evident in every piece and you can't really beat the value. $200 and you have the option of plugging straight into a deck with plug in power, or you can use the phantom power modules for a deck with xlr inputs and phantom power.

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=171726.msg2127155#msg2127155

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=172176.0

Good luck!
« Last Edit: March 30, 2015, 03:09:02 PM by down2earthlandscaper »
Mics: CA-14(cards & omnis) and CA-11(cards & omnis) ; AT853's(cards, hypers, mini shotguns); Busman BSC-1 (cards, hypers, omnis)
Nakamichi CM300's (CP-1,2,3,4) Nakamichi CM700's (cards, omnis)
Tascam PE-120's (cards, omnis) Countryman B2D
DPA 4061's DPA 4022's; DPA 4080; AKG 480 ck61 and ck63; Naiant AKG Active Cables
Preamps: CA-9100; Naiant Tinybox (12v/48v + PIP 8V); Naiant Littlebox;
DPA MPS6030; Sound Device Mix Pre-D
Decks: Mixpre 10T and 6; Roland R-07; Marantz PMD620; Sony PCM M10; Edirol R-4; Zoom H6; Marantz PMD-661; Sound Devices 722

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Re: Panic Taper - Need Some Mic/Power Supply Suggestions...
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2015, 11:06:08 AM »
Since you mentioned wanting to record Panic, here is an example of Church Audio stuff at their Chicago show last summer.
CA-14 cards > CA-9100 > DR-2d
http://www.panicstream.com/vault/widespread-panic-06202014-chicago-il/

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Re: Panic Taper - Need Some Mic/Power Supply Suggestions...
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2015, 11:51:30 AM »
I came in to say what tonedeaf said. You'll have to watch the YS and Ebay closely but some will pop up. The problem with those on Ebay is often a seller won't know how to check the mics or even check if the battery is corroded inside... There's some luck involved unfortunately. Patience is key.

CA mics are a great bargain and sound way better than they cost. The huge difference between the CAs and the Naks is the size. CA-11s and CA-14s are small and can be adapted for stealth too. But if you are only running open, you might not mind having full-bodied Naks or other mics.

If you have the budget, go and get a 4ch rig. You can do it for slightly more than the $300 budget. That way you have open and stealth options, and can run two pairs of mics at once. DR-2d has 4 channels (but recorded to separate files), that's around 100-130. You can get CAs for around 100, and a pair of Naks for around 100 (if lucky, you gotta watch the sites). There's a lot of options but that's what I would recommend in that price range.

WSP Lockn '14 / CA-14s(C) - http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=577182
WSP Lockn '14 / Nak CM-100s/CP-1s - http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=575366
WSP Starlight '14 / Nak CM-100s/CP-1s + CA-11 Center Omni - http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=575365
WSP Starlight '14 / Nak CM-100s/CP-1s (no center omni) - http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=573414
WSP Lincoln '14 / Nak CM-100s/CP-1s - http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=573412
Mics: Nak CM-300s, Nak CM-100s, CP-1s, CP-2s, AT-853s(Cards, Hypers, Omnis) CA-14s(Cards, Omnis)
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