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Market for Schoeps VMS 02IB
« on: March 15, 2018, 03:11:44 PM »
I have been offered a Schoeps VMS 02IB as part of a package deal and wanted to know if there is a secondary market for this box still.  I don't want to sink money into a pricey MS rig if I cannot offload the parts that I do not want.
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Re: Market for Schoeps VMS 02IB
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2018, 04:10:02 PM »
Just throwing out my guestimate from watching these in the YS. I'm thinking a VMS could sell to someone interested in running a genuine Schoeps pre for around $500-$600. But with all the options available today not everybody is looking for a stand alone pre anymore.
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Re: Market for Schoeps VMS 02IB
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2018, 04:19:55 PM »
Schoeps doesn't repair these any longer, although places like Vark will "attempt" to fix them.

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Re: Market for Schoeps VMS 02IB
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2018, 04:39:02 PM »
Not much, a least for this Schoeps m/s taper.

The existence of the PFA and the ease of M/S conversion either live (on a modern all in one pre/ad) or in post means that there are smaller solutions to get m/s actives to a preamp.

Chris King was nice enough to lend me his for a while. It's cool looking, but my old littlebox does the same thing, fits my bag better, has longer battery life, and I don't think I hear any sonic improvement. 
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Re: Market for Schoeps VMS 02IB
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2018, 05:53:40 PM »
I never ran M/S with one, but I ran one for a couple of years with 41's and absolutely dug it.  Sounded great IMO. 
They seem to sit in the YS for a while these days it seems...  and sell for much less than they use to.
Anywhere from $400-$700 has been the "going rate" for the last few in the YS I think.  But they sit for a while.

If you have a KCY cable, and can get it for a fair price....  go for it!  You don't need to strictly run M/S with it.
M/S is more easily flexible in post anyways.

But yeah...  if it breaks, call Vark Audio and hopefully they can help. a blank space where my mind should be.....

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Re: Market for Schoeps VMS 02IB
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2018, 10:51:08 PM »
I am assuming this is for the rig in France that's been up for a while - The VMS looks older (flat black and not nextel grey) - regardless:

VMS 02ib ~ $500
KCY5i      ~$500
MK4         ~$400
MK8 (wide vents) ~$750
Rycote setup  ~$200

So at the current price of 1500 euros it's not to bad deal if your looking to pick up the mk8.

The VMS is also not very popular right now so it may take longer to sell even at $500

FWIW - I don't give tips on these foreign deals anymore as there hasn't been much interest and when there is it causes to much pressure on the sellers.
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Re: Market for Schoeps VMS 02IB
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2018, 04:39:20 PM »
...and I don't think I hear any sonic improvement.

After owning three littleboxes one tinybox and many VMS's, I strongly disagree with this statement.  VMSs are still great preamps, but yes their value has decreased of late...not the least of which is the completely false information spread on taperssection that they can't be repaired.

Vark Audio works on them and does a great job.  The older smaller VMS preamps have three boards and the vast majority of the components on the boards are readily replaceable.  The major components that I know of that aren't replaceable are the front switches on the older small VMS preamps and the boards themselves.  But most repairs consist of replacement of readily available electronic parts...diodes, capacitors, transistors, etc. 

I believe that the VMS5U is still sold by Schoeps so parts availability on that one should not be an issue.


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