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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #105 on: August 18, 2017, 12:25:57 PM »
2. It looks like you can control fader setting. Is so, you can reduce the L/R track to just 5 and 6 post fader and control gain via the fader.
I was not able to make this work.  I'm not saying it's impossible, but I wasn't able to find a way to do it.
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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #106 on: August 18, 2017, 12:57:46 PM »
2. It looks like you can control fader setting. Is so, you can reduce the L/R track to just 5 and 6 post fader and control gain via the fader.
I was not able to make this work.  I'm not saying it's impossible, but I wasn't able to find a way to do it.

Accomplishing what I suggested first depends on whether you can actually control the fader level - Does selecting fader in this screen give you control or is it like the level menu item where there are a couple of settings?

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #107 on: August 18, 2017, 02:37:10 PM »
I feel like an idiot asking this, but how do I use a pair of mini input mics (Countryman B3, CA14) with this?  I tried plugging them into the 5/6 input on the side, and got nothing.   ???

5/6 is -10 or +4 line in. You would need an external pre-amp.

1/4" Phone plugs are -10 line in, once again you would need and external pre-amp.

XLR's are mic in. With and adapter they should work for you.
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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #108 on: August 18, 2017, 03:04:07 PM »
I feel like an idiot asking this, but how do I use a pair of mini input mics (Countryman B3, CA14) with this?  I tried plugging them into the 5/6 input on the side, and got nothing.   ???

5/6 is -10 or +4 line in. You would need an external pre-amp.

1/4" Phone plugs are -10 line in, once again you would need and external pre-amp.

XLR's are mic in. With and adapter they should work for you.

Yeah he realized that after talking to them and is going with an external pre-amp. I am still curious is the fader and l/r would be an alternative strategy

1/4" are +4 however, I believe

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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #109 on: August 18, 2017, 03:45:35 PM »

Yeah he realized that after talking to them and is going with an external pre-amp. I am still curious is the fader and l/r would be an alternative strategy

The fader is post recording affecting the output of the recording, so I do not see how that would work.
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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #110 on: August 18, 2017, 04:21:01 PM »

Yeah he realized that after talking to them and is going with an external pre-amp. I am still curious is the fader and l/r would be an alternative strategy

The fader is post recording affecting the output of the recording, so I do not see how that would work.


I looked at the flow diagram and its going to be more awkward than I thought.

I stream from the F8 by changing the output routing so its only sending the channels I want to stream. I was thinking that when you record the L/R channel you could do the same thing but you can't. All armed tracks go into the L/R mix.

I've never cared about the L/R mix, so I've never thought about this before,  but if you turn on recording of L/R and then turn the fader to 0 db for all tracks except five and six does the L/R mix recording only have whats coming through on five and six?
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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #111 on: October 10, 2017, 03:50:52 PM »
Running a pair of mics through a CA 9200 preamp into the 5/6 input, what gain setting should I use for the 5/6 input?  The choices are −10 dBV and +4 dBu.  This would be for loud amplified shows.
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Re: Zoom F4 with six inputs and eight tracks (is like a new low priced F8!)
« Reply #112 on: October 10, 2017, 06:36:45 PM »
^ Depends on the sensitivity of the mics and the SPLs, but probably the +4 dBu is better for loud rock. Check the chart on Sengpiel...

 

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