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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2017, 07:07:07 PM »
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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2017, 07:53:18 PM »
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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2017, 09:06:42 PM »
I believe Jon at naiant can customize the IPA inputs  for your mbho actives. Check out the IPA page at naiant.com. It is metal though so I wonder if the baby nbox is better for passing metal detectors?
Looked at the site both a battery box and preamp nice. They do offer mbho options also. Question does it support 2 mics or are 2 ipas needed? Yes metal but small and preamp is probably better than the m10 or other small deck. Appears kcy is needed fof schoeps only fortunately. Any phone number for Jon - I'll call Monday when they're open. Thanks

Only one IPA needed I believe. Www.naiant.com. Best is to email Jon, his email is linked at the site. Love the little thing so much I'm getting a backup.
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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2017, 03:18:58 PM »
I believe Jon at naiant can customize the IPA inputs  for your mbho actives. Check out the IPA page at naiant.com. It is metal though so I wonder if the baby nbox is better for passing metal detectors?
Looked at the site both a battery box and preamp nice. They do offer mbho options also. Question does it support 2 mics or are 2 ipas needed? Yes metal but small and preamp is probably better than the m10 or other small deck. Appears kcy is needed fof schoeps only fortunately. Any phone number for Jon - I'll call Monday when they're open. Thanks

Only one IPA needed I believe. Www.naiant.com. Best is to email Jon, his email is linked at the site. Love the little thing so much I'm getting a backup.
Looks as both babynbox and ipa provide power and amplification.
Ipa plus up to 3 gain settings but metal
Nbox plus mostly plastic no gain settings
Any other major plus or minus
Thanks guys all this information is very helpful.

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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2017, 04:21:16 PM »
Baby nbox does not provide gain.
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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2017, 04:42:00 PM »
At least with dpa's the mics are good but I question the quality of analog to digital conversion quality in a phone.  It is a marginal solution at best in my opinion and a small recorder is not that hard to get in.

The d:vice contains an ADC, so the phone only functions as a bit bucket. Since you can record relatively high resolution video with an iPhone, the digital audio data shouldn't be a problem.

Also, I don't get why this thing would be such a "botch" to stealth with. Granted it may not be the most convenient form factor, but it is tiny (56 mm diameter) and light (50 g) and gets rid of the recorder...

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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2017, 07:47:40 PM »
At least with dpa's the mics are good but I question the quality of analog to digital conversion quality in a phone.  It is a marginal solution at best in my opinion and a small recorder is not that hard to get in.

The d:vice contains an ADC, so the phone only functions as a bit bucket. Since you can record relatively high resolution video with an iPhone, the digital audio data shouldn't be a problem.

Also, I don't get why this thing would be such a "botch" to stealth with. Granted it may not be the most convenient form factor, but it is tiny (56 mm diameter) and light (50 g) and gets rid of the recorder...

Are you saying the A/D converter is comparable to an M10, DR-2D or R-05?   

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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2017, 06:48:25 AM »

Looks as both babynbox and ipa provide power and amplification.
Ipa plus up to 3 gain settings but metal
Nbox plus mostly plastic no gain settings
Any other major plus or minus
Thanks guys all this information is very helpful.

IPA doesn't set off metal detectors...I have walked my schoeps/IPA/R-05 through them a few times now.

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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2017, 07:45:30 AM »
Are you saying the A/D converter is comparable to an M10, DR-2D or R-05?

No, I am saying that the analog to digital conversion takes place in the MMA-A and not in the iPhone.  Given the age of those recorders, however, not to mention the price tag of the MMA-A, I would be very surprised if the DPA ADC isn't better than those others...

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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2017, 05:20:17 PM »

Looks as both babynbox and ipa provide power and amplification.
Ipa plus up to 3 gain settings but metal
Nbox plus mostly plastic no gain settings
Any other major plus or minus
Thanks guys all this information is very helpful.

IPA doesn't set off metal detectors...I have walked my schoeps/IPA/R-05 through them a few times now.

Been wanded a few times  :o  Pocket full of change, car and house keys in another pocket, and belt buckle.  Most obvious metal on me--obvious because my right hand has some metal in it too.  Never set anything off but once.  At Journey and Asia recently and security announces they are wanded everyone saying even gum wrapper will set off their wands.  Guy in front of me panics and has his hands full everything possible that could be metal.  My daughter has her extra battery for her phone and they didn't say a thing about it.     
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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2017, 05:29:31 PM »
Remain amazed that Journey and Asia shows have that kind of budget.
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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #26 on: May 10, 2017, 01:29:34 AM »
Baby nbox does not provide gain.
Leaning towards mbho caps > actives > ipa or babynbox > m10 for lo pro rig.

This is what I've learned from you guys on an ipa vs babbynbox:
The babbynbox has one setting but is for mic in (using deck pre). Unit is mostly plastic. Biger than the ipa but stealthable. Sole fuction is a batter box. Has mini xlr and tr6 connections.
IPA has 3 gain settings and goes line in (no confirmation if line or mic in) into an m10.
Does the ipa inline amplifier fuction like an attinuator (what does it do). Do the inline ampifiers reduce noise levels/hiss that occur in small decks with mediocre pres (like an m10)? The ipa is mostly metal but is very small so stealthy.
Ipa has xlr connections.
Does anyone have experience using both units - which sounds better?
Any other preferences or differences in these units?
Thanks guys all this information has been very helpful
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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #27 on: May 10, 2017, 09:23:06 AM »
With the IPA you would want to go line in and use the gain from the IPA!  For stealth the IPA would be hard to beat if you are running full sized caps.
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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #28 on: May 10, 2017, 10:20:38 AM »
"I'm not the wook you're looking for" ;D
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Re: Low pro advice
« Reply #29 on: May 10, 2017, 10:27:36 AM »
Even with the NBox Platinum Tascam DR-2D and Schoeps MK4/MK41 getting in through metal detectors using a little creativity I have had a success rate over 95%  only one time I failed, (the gear was inside but was caught handling off the gear back at bag check) it was my fault after 2 weekends of festivals and 4 other shows.

Compared to the old days this is all pretty easy.

 

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