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Re: Suggestions for a center channel omni to run into my MixPre3
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2017, 08:44:43 AM »
Have fun with it Ed, and thanks for the good excuse!
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Re: Suggestions for a center channel omni to run into my MixPre3
« Reply #16 on: July 07, 2017, 07:11:21 PM »
Hiya Ed,

If interested, I just posted more details on the "why" behind the idea about mounting a non-low-passed center channel omni significantly higher or lower than your stereo pair here- Relationships between spaced omnis and center mic

Warning though, that post along with the rest of my contributions to that thread are pretty much TL:DR for most.
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Re: Suggestions for a center channel omni to run into my MixPre3
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2017, 03:40:52 PM »
Here's an example of a pair of forward facing MK4V's along with a rear facing AT 4022 Omni panned center and mixed into the two stereo tracks.
I didn't track out the audio just used it in this video my friend shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtGXNd_EXY4
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Re: Suggestions for a center channel omni to run into my MixPre3
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2017, 06:53:41 PM »
Sounds great, at least IMO.  It would be cool to hear a comparison clip (even if it's just a minute or so) of just the Schoeps vs. the Schoeps + AT...if you're up to the effort of that.
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Re: Suggestions for a center channel omni to run into my MixPre3
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2017, 08:53:43 PM »
Sounds great, at least IMO.  It would be cool to hear a comparison clip (even if it's just a minute or so) of just the Schoeps vs. the Schoeps + AT...if you're up to the effort of that.

Sure, here
https://www.dropbox.com/s/avbgo5u143f3b7x/Archive.zip?dl=0
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Re: Suggestions for a center channel omni to run into my MixPre3
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2017, 06:26:26 PM »
Hi Ed,

If you end up using that setup regularly, and aren't averse to EQ, you might play around with EQing just the rear-facing omni channel with a curve resembling the equal loudness curve (boosted bass, deeply scooped mids with maximum reduction of the upper mids, boosted highs).  That helps the omni contribute what it's best at (bass extension down low + rear facing ambient air and openess up top) while keeping it out of the way of the MK4 stereo pair through the midrange, which is where the addition of the omni tends to collapse image width and sometimes muddy things up somewhat.    Also helps to minimize the listener's attention being pulled toward the audience members behind the recording position acting up or talking loudly, without overall reduction of omni level.  That way, you may find you are able to dial in more omni level without problems if you want to do so.  Once you find a general curve that works, you can apply the same curve to the rear facing omni each time, only tweaking it further if necessary.  I find this can be quite useful with my own rear facing ambiance mics.
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