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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2005, 05:41:57 PM »
Nick, I'd also recommend the Kingston Pro Elite cards. Mine's been working great in the FR-2. I payed $220, shipped. I looked up the dane elec card on ebay.  I'd steer clear of anyone advertising free shipping and handling then charging $5 'shipping' to cover tracking and insurance.  ??? 


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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2005, 05:44:35 PM »
yea, i cheaped out..and got that slow ass 4gb DE and saved $30.
I should have bucked up...but its only the transfer speed that is affected so I said "eh"

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2005, 08:53:45 PM »
I purchased:

Hitachi Microdrive 3K4
Model # HMS360404D5CF00
219.99 @ Best Buy

Performance     
Data buffer (KB)    128
Rotational speed (rpm)    3600
Latency (average ms)    8.33
Media transfer rate (max. Mbits/sec)    57.1 - 97.9
Interface transfer rate (max. MB/sec)2    33
Sustained data rate (MB/sec)    4.3 - 7.2
     
Seek time (read, typical)
   
Average (ms)    12
Track to track (ms)    1
Full track (ms)    22


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Not really sure what all of that tech jargon means but the 2gb discs they had in stock were around $280 so I was glad to get this one for so cheap.
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2005, 09:48:31 PM »
Me being in a hurry I didn't read the manual fully and missed the blip about microdrive cards not working with the R1.  Fantastic, now I'm pressed to find one at wal-mart or office max tommorow.
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2005, 08:22:32 AM »
I purchased:

Hitachi Microdrive 3K4
Model # HMS360404D5CF00
219.99 @ Best Buy

Performance     
Data buffer (KB)    128
Rotational speed (rpm)    3600
Latency (average ms)    8.33
Media transfer rate (max. Mbits/sec)    57.1 - 97.9
Interface transfer rate (max. MB/sec)2    33
Sustained data rate (MB/sec)    4.3 - 7.2
     
Seek time (read, typical)
   
Average (ms)    12
Track to track (ms)    1
Full track (ms)    22


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Not really sure what all of that tech jargon means but the 2gb discs they had in stock were around $280 so I was glad to get this one for so cheap.

a 2gig microdrive for 219 ?! I hope this is a typo or you got seriously ripped off...
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2005, 09:09:30 AM »
As already asked here, I'm wondering if getting something faster (for faster transfers) eats up battery life and thus it's better get a slower card.

Anyone?

Thanks

It was posted on oade that slower CF cards got much better battery life in the R1.

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2005, 05:37:57 PM »
Right, faster equates to higer drives on the logic inside the the flash for address decoding and output drivers. Higher speed flash also has better difference amps for detemining bit values too. Faster=more power for writing and reading.

P.S. Larger sizes require larger decoders so smaller cards require less power for reading and writing too.
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2005, 11:31:17 PM »
I purchased:

Hitachi Microdrive 3K4
Model # HMS360404D5CF00
219.99 @ Best Buy

Performance     
Data buffer (KB)    128
Rotational speed (rpm)    3600
Latency (average ms)    8.33
Media transfer rate (max. Mbits/sec)    57.1 - 97.9
Interface transfer rate (max. MB/sec)2    33
Sustained data rate (MB/sec)    4.3 - 7.2
     
Seek time (read, typical)
   
Average (ms)    12
Track to track (ms)    1
Full track (ms)    22


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Not really sure what all of that tech jargon means but the 2gb discs they had in stock were around $280 so I was glad to get this one for so cheap.

a 2gig microdrive for 219 ?! I hope this is a typo or you got seriously ripped off...



Yeah, I returned that thing and ordered a 4GB Kingston flash card from Newegg.com for 211.00
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2005, 10:03:39 AM »
thanks for the speed/power use info guys.  Sounds like 40x or 60x is the go then.

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #24 on: October 07, 2005, 10:59:40 AM »
Hi,
Anyone got any user specs on Transcend 80x cards? There's a special going on them in Japan (where I am).  Still probably not as cheap as the Kingston cards, but cheaper than Sandisk Ultras.
Thanks!

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2005, 11:17:05 AM »
fwiw, the Dane Elec 4gb card would not work in the PMD 660.
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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2005, 03:28:37 PM »
it is not just the write speed... the card has to be able to do SUSTAINED writing. i have a PMD 671 that writes fine to my basic ScanDisk 4G card but I cannot get either of the two 4G Delkin cards to write w/o a short 1-2sec burst of static on my recordings - VERY FRUSTRATING. talked to Delkin today and their answer is that they only expect their cards to write in bursts, not 4hrs of constant writing as is happening w/ CF recording.

Marantz only recommends Lexar (the priceyest but the most reliable), PNY, Viking, Hitachi, and IBM. (the last two are only microdrives, i believe and they do NOT work well in my 671 - see the marantz thread in this section)

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2005, 06:19:55 PM »
Thanks for the tip. I just picked one up. $229.35 including 2nd day shipping. May need it this weekend if I go to My Morning Jacket instead of seeing the Illini get destroyed by Penn State at homecoming.

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Re: CF cards: how fast is needed?
« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2005, 11:03:53 AM »
$211? The website shows over 211

They increased their price?

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