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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2006, 10:48:09 AM »
conman-33  ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D


I doubt it. I finally got a response to my inquiries and it seems the company has been moving into a new office ,the principles had been on the tradeshow circuit as well as finding a full-time distributor. Don't know about the distributor but I'm guessing the move is complete by now. Anyway, I purchased a pair and am quite happy with what I've heard so far though it's only been a local bands very informal rehearsals. They may very well have 400+ sets in stock since the pair I received had serial numbers ~450 apart and the high number was just under 1200. Biggest problem I had was the initial contact. Once established, all subsequent dealings went without a hitch.

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2006, 11:26:47 AM »
conman-33  ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D


I doubt it. I finally got a response to my inquiries and it seems the company has been moving into a new office ,the principles had been on the tradeshow circuit as well as finding a full-time distributor. Don't know about the distributor but I'm guessing the move is complete by now. Anyway, I purchased a pair and am quite happy with what I've heard so far though it's only been a local bands very informal rehearsals. They may very well have 400+ sets in stock since the pair I received had serial numbers ~450 apart and the high number was just under 1200. Biggest problem I had was the initial contact. Once established, all subsequent dealings went without a hitch.

I agree, I bought my set off eBay and it was a total gamble. I liked the samples a lot, but was wary due to the incomplete website. I did get ahold of David Cohen, and he was very appreciate, and very frank. It sounds like they had some mics go out and the people who re-sold them were not the most reputable. The company made it clear thay want as much distance from those types of reps as possible.

I have been really happy with the mics, and I have shared as much as possible with my MN Tapers, and tried to post and get honest opinions on what others think of the mics. I know I am going to be a "little biased", because they are my mics, but I have gotten great feedback from a lot of sources that have been positive. Also in situations like the Gov't Mule concert I just posted, there were lots of us clamped to the same pole, so the good sound and very positive feedback is in comparison to some very identical recordings (placement-wise).

Anyway, I am hoping the company gets up and running. The more info and feedback, the better. Also, I am hoping that other caps hit the market at some point.

Per a request, I also posted the warm-up band (Donavon Frankenreiter)from the Gov't Mule show I posted yesterday. It is a smaller torrent, so feel free to give it a listen. 8)
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2006, 11:56:33 AM »
conman-33  ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think it stands for the CliffMxxxx-33  :-)
I'm holding out for the RO-48 model. 

All kidding aside, I've had a chance to hear just about everything Cliff has taped with the CM-33's and I like the sound of them.  They are bright and detailed sounding which is something I like.  Then again, Cliff can make good tapes with a couple of tin cans and some bailing wire.

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2006, 12:03:48 PM »
Also in situations like the Gov't Mule concert I just posted, there were lots of us clamped to the same pole, so the good sound and very positive feedback is in comparison to some very identical recordings (placement-wise).

I'll post my 12/6/2006 Gov't Mule recording on bt.etree.org also to provide a good comparison.  Cliff had his CM-33's clamped on to my stand and we were both recording on HD-P2's standalone.  My mic cables might be a little more burned in than his so my recording might be a little warmer and less detailed as a result  :-)  Otherwise we had identical setup and location.



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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2006, 12:45:30 PM »
I'll post my 12/6/2006 Gov't Mule recording on bt.etree.org also to provide a good comparison. 

Here's a link to my source:
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2006, 01:18:50 PM »
conman-33  ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D

I think it stands for the CliffMxxxx-33  :-)
I'm holding out for the RO-48 model. 

All kidding aside, I've had a chance to hear just about everything Cliff has taped with the CM-33's and I like the sound of them.  They are bright and detailed sounding which is something I like.  Then again, Cliff can make good tapes with a couple of tin cans and some bailing wire.



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My current avatar is from that same Gov't Mule Concert. Rodeen on the far left, and me on the far right. His copy of the show is very good and very different from mine. As Rick says, the only difference are the mics and the cables. A great way to get a feel for these mics!!

Somewhere I should have a good in use pic of the mics. Otherwise, next time out I'll take one.
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2006, 01:25:53 PM »
I used the info@berlinerusa.com e-addy and got a response from David Cohen, the president of the company. He had me get in touch with envision music group who was the interim distributor. I have no idea if envision is stilll handling the mics or if Berliner has found a permanent distributor. I paid $450 for a set.

I'll post pics in a little bit. Any particular angle/components in particular you would like to see?


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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2006, 02:09:37 PM »
Looks like the best view of the cap is a little out of focus. The scale in the background is an engineers scale and is in .1 of an inch. I'll have to retrieve the manual for the camera this evening to figure how to change resolution and can snap some more pics tonight or tomorrow morning. If you want anything in particular that isn't in this group, let me know and I'll do my best to get some decent pics.

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2006, 08:31:07 AM »
you want the LSD
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2007, 06:48:40 PM »
Looks like the best view of the cap is a little out of focus. The scale in the background is an engineers scale and is in .1 of an inch. I'll have to retrieve the manual for the camera this evening to figure how to change resolution and can snap some more pics tonight or tomorrow morning. If you want anything in particular that isn't in this group, let me know and I'll do my best to get some decent pics.

http://flipp.home.telepath.com/CM33/

Not that it matters really, but that would be 1/10th of feet.  The mic body is .3ft or 3.5in.  I've held Dahlman's and they are nearly identical to the Neumann 184
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2007, 07:37:54 PM »
The upper scale in the pictures is in tenths (0.1) of an inch, not tenths of a foot. The numbers on the upper scale are inches. The lower scale is in fiftieths (1/50) of an inch. The mic body with cap attached is between 3.6 and 3.7 inches in length or 183/50 (3.66 inch). Without getting the calipers out of my toolbox, I'll call it 3 2/3 inches, or just slightly longer than my middle finger when I hold the mic in my hand.

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2007, 12:41:03 PM »
Three shows recorded with these mics have been upped in the past week to bt.etree.org

just do a search for "berliner" if you are interested in hearing how these sound

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2007, 11:11:03 PM »
+t for upping examples of "off the radar" mics!

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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2007, 06:58:55 AM »
tenths of a foot?
is that some sort of metric hybrid?
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Re: Berliner CM-33 mics?
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2007, 10:17:14 AM »
+t for upping examples of "off the radar" mics!


Two of those shows were recorded and upped by dallman, only one is mine. I do have a Yonder Mountain show I'll get up eventually and a WSP show (Dallas 3-24-07) that I'll probably just snail untracked flac copies to anyone interested in comparing it to the three versions already up on bt, two of which were recorded within ten feet of my location.

 

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