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Gear / Technical Help => Ask The Tapers => Topic started by: pillowman on November 24, 2016, 01:40:38 PM
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aloa togehther !
cause I am searching for a long time to get some AT853sc caps (used while they are discountinued)
without success I am asking myself what could be a replacement for this nice sounding caps.
So without coming to a clue it's time to throw this question into our board.
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So what could be a replacement to the AT853 subcards ?
They should be small and stealthy, brand doesn't matter, easy to power with just a 9V/12V bbox,
for loud and amplified rock shows close to the stage and/or speakers ???
hm, ... any ideas ? Curious what the taper community have in mind :D
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so thanks for reading
greetings
pillowman
btw. I am still open for AT853sc offers !!!
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I wonder why AT doesnt offer these anymore?
Bh photo still has the Omni and Hypers for them.
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I asked AT UK if a minimum order quantity could be put in a year ago, and got the brush off, saying that they'd feed the request back to Japan. Never heard back.
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DPA 4060/4061 omnis for me. Even smaller than the ATs, and a step up in sound quality with regards to clean clarity and frequency extension.
I've a specific application where a subcard pattern would be preferable to omni, yet I still need a very small lightweight mic, so the 853 subcard lingers in my mind as possibly the best solution, at less cost. I've not found any available however, so I plan to go back to using hard-foam ball attachments with the DPAs mounted flush in them, which makes them sort of subcardioid-like in the frequency range from the high-mids and up.
But for your application- They should be small and stealthy, brand doesn't matter, easy to power with just a 9V/12V bbox,
for loud and amplified rock shows close to the stage and/or speakers ???
I think the miniature DPA omnis are a good fit without messing with DIY ball attachments.
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DPA 4060/4061 omnis for me. Even smaller than the ATs, and a step up in sound quality with regards to clean clarity and frequency extension.
I've a specific application where a subcard pattern would be preferable to omni, yet I still need a very small lightweight mic, so the 853 subcard lingers in my mind as possibly the best solution, at less cost. I've not found any available however, so I plan to go back to using hard-foam ball attachments with the DPAs mounted flush in them, which makes them sort of subcardioid-like in the frequency range from the high-mids and up.
But for your application- They should be small and stealthy, brand doesn't matter, easy to power with just a 9V/12V bbox,
for loud and amplified rock shows close to the stage and/or speakers ???
I think the miniature DPA omnis are a good fit without messing with DIY ball attachments.
^^^This, exactly.
I don't know that I've even run my AT853's since I picked up my pair of 4061's...
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DPA 4060/4061 omnis for me. [...] I think the miniature DPA omnis are a good fit without messing with DIY ball attachments.
If I knew you were only taping in small clubs or doing stack taping in 1000-1500 capacity venues, I'd suggest you a good pair of omnis too and a bit of bass roll-off in post.
But for huge arenas and/or if you want to stay with super cardioid caps, you could consider the SP-CMC-25 (http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-CMC-25).
Samples on Dime (http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-browse.php?search=%22sp-cmc-25%22&cat=0&incldead=1&searchscope=).
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The Line Audio CM3 (http://www.lineaudio.se/CM3.html) should be high on the list.
Thay call it a "cardioid", but the polar-pattern clearly shows it to be a sub-cardioid.
Suberb little mic. and the price is stupidly low.
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This. I've not used them, but have liked what I've heard from the Line Audios. The Line Audio mics are not large as SD's go, are standard-size XLR connected / P48 powered. I'd have picked up a pair already except my application requires something miniature sized, light-weight and low-voltage powered.
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The Line Audio CM3 (http://www.lineaudio.se/CM3.html) should be high on the list.
Thay call it a "cardioid", but the polar-pattern clearly shows it to be a sub-cardioid.
Suberb little mic. and the price is stupidly low.
thanks for the hint - about those little swedish bastards I need some more information ...
as I will always go stealthy what is the smallest possible way to power them right,
I have many recorders but noone offers 48V ... so what small box do I have to add to my stuff ?
also:
which are the smallest / best cables to connect the mics with the recorder (stealthwise) ?
thanks for your answers
cheers
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pm