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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #165 on: April 14, 2015, 02:34:34 PM »
You could also go from the Nbox RCA > XLR in on the 70d I did this with my Aerco MP-2 when I had it.  You just need rca>xlr cable
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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #166 on: April 14, 2015, 04:00:30 PM »
Actually if I'm not mistaken the 70d also has an 1/8 mini input.

It sure does.
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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #167 on: April 14, 2015, 06:12:52 PM »
Actually if I'm not mistaken the 70d also has an 1/8 mini input.

It sure does.

Not for all 4 channels I don't think; could be wrong. I think 1L/2R/3L/4R are XLR/6.3mm (1/4") TRS combos
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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #168 on: April 14, 2015, 06:34:42 PM »
Two binder connectors(Male & Female) will only run you $25-$30 MAX, and ask Robb or Ted to do it for you. You can probably get the splice done for $50 or under. It would make your cable MORE versatile, not less. Just unplug the binder and either plug it into the PFAs, or the NBox. Simple as that! And if you don't like the NBox Im sure you could resell it rather quick if its a new platinum ;)

Best of luck!

This is how my cables are set up.  Terminated for NBox ( not binder ) and and adapter to use PFAs for my Aerco, or any 48V pre.

Now I'm curious.  Can the new NBox cables terminated in a Schoeps binder be used with the the VMS02IB or VMS5U?  What about the old cables with an adapter?  EN3-->Schoeps Binder?

As long as the actives have a binder connector at the end, they can be used with a new NBox Platinum, a VMS02ib, or a VMS5u ;) Also a LittleBox/Tinybox like I run too, and a Lemosax[Sonosax with a Schoeps KCY input(Binder)]

Sorry Bean, need to correct a bit of misinformation here.

Nbox cables designed for use with an Nbox (or any custom made preamp by Bill / Rick / Nick / etc.) can only be used with those boxes or a PFA / Tinybox. They are electrically different than genuine Schoeps KC/KCY cables, specifically there is one fewer cable conductor, the circuit is internally grounded, and the FET voltage rail is different. If you have a pair of Nbox cables, there is no way to use them a VMS / Lemosax unit because they are not electronically compatible.

A connector is just a connector; it has no bearing on what devices the active cable will work with, so simply re-terminating a pair of Nbox cables to a 5-pin binder will not magically make it compatible with the VMS.

My understanding is that Nic also now offers custom active cables built to original KC / KCY, in which case could use it those with a VMS, but I believe the overwhelming majority of people that have purchased cables from Nic have the Nbox variant. If I were buying Schoeps active cables, which I'm not since I already own six pairs, I would only get a genuine KC/KCY configuration. It's more flexible / non-proprietary and there are a number of technical reasons to prefer it. YMMV.


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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #169 on: April 14, 2015, 08:17:41 PM »

Classic Bean...quoting prices for other peoples' custom work then making recommendations on gear he actually owns but knows nothing about.... ::)

I'm putting money in a jar for an NBox platinum. Should only take me a few years.

I wish my tax refund would come through at least I could have picked up one of the many pairs of Schoeps caps (41s)  that have been in the YS.
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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #170 on: April 14, 2015, 09:14:33 PM »
The notion that one type of cable is superior to another is absolutely FALSE.
Neither system is balanced regardless of how many conductors are used to make up the fet circuit.
Only difference is one is grounded in the capsule head and the other is on the other end.  That's all I have to say about that 8)

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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #171 on: April 14, 2015, 10:06:01 PM »
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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #172 on: April 14, 2015, 11:07:03 PM »
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Not again...
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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #173 on: April 15, 2015, 12:40:42 AM »

Classic Bean...quoting prices for other peoples' custom work then making recommendations on gear he actually owns but knows nothing about.... ::)

I'm putting money in a jar for an NBox platinum. Should only take me a few years.

I wish my tax refund would come through at least I could have picked up one of the many pairs of Schoeps caps (41s)  that have been in the YS.

There is still a pair in YS.  I got mine.   ;D

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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #174 on: April 15, 2015, 02:32:42 AM »
Two binder connectors(Male & Female) will only run you $25-$30 MAX, and ask Robb or Ted to do it for you. You can probably get the splice done for $50 or under. It would make your cable MORE versatile, not less. Just unplug the binder and either plug it into the PFAs, or the NBox. Simple as that! And if you don't like the NBox Im sure you could resell it rather quick if its a new platinum ;)

Best of luck!

This is how my cables are set up.  Terminated for NBox ( not binder ) and and adapter to use PFAs for my Aerco, or any 48V pre.

Now I'm curious.  Can the new NBox cables terminated in a Schoeps binder be used with the the VMS02IB or VMS5U?  What about the old cables with an adapter?  EN3-->Schoeps Binder?

As long as the actives have a binder connector at the end, they can be used with a new NBox Platinum, a VMS02ib, or a VMS5u ;) Also a LittleBox/Tinybox like I run too, and a Lemosax[Sonosax with a Schoeps KCY input(Binder)]

Sorry Bean, need to correct a bit of misinformation here.

Nbox cables designed for use with an Nbox (or any custom made preamp by Bill / Rick / Nick / etc.) can only be used with those boxes or a PFA / Tinybox. They are electrically different than genuine Schoeps KC/KCY cables, specifically there is one fewer cable conductor, the circuit is internally grounded, and the FET voltage rail is different. If you have a pair of Nbox cables, there is no way to use them a VMS / Lemosax unit because they are not electronically compatible.

A connector is just a connector; it has no bearing on what devices the active cable will work with, so simply re-terminating a pair of Nbox cables to a 5-pin binder will not magically make it compatible with the VMS.

My understanding is that Nic also now offers custom active cables built to original KC / KCY, in which case could use it those with a VMS, but I believe the overwhelming majority of people that have purchased cables from Nic have the Nbox variant. If I were buying Schoeps active cables, which I'm not since I already own six pairs, I would only get a genuine KC/KCY configuration. It's more flexible / non-proprietary and there are a number of technical reasons to prefer it. YMMV.



Yeah, sorry about that. I definitely didnt word that right! I didn't mean you can just put a Binder on it and it'll work. I know the cables are electronically different! I meant an NBob KCY or Schoeps KCY, with a binder on the end, will work with those preamps I listed! I know the NBox cables have a totally different connector[not a binder] and you can only use those cables with an NBox! And I forgot to state that when I listed the NBox Platinum above, I forgot to add the KCY at the end 8)

With the NBox connector, you can only use the Nbox. Period. With an NBob KCY or Schoeps KCY, you can use the NBox Platinum KCY, VMS02ib/VMS5u, Lemosax, and the Littlebox/Tinybox.

And sorry Nicky, I didn't mean to quote prices for you or Ted. I was simply stating that a binder connector isn't that expensive and it shouldn't cost him an arm and a leg to get the work done ;) That is all.
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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #175 on: April 15, 2015, 02:33:25 AM »

Classic Bean...quoting prices for other peoples' custom work then making recommendations on gear he actually owns but knows nothing about.... ::)

I'm putting money in a jar for an NBox platinum. Should only take me a few years.

I wish my tax refund would come through at least I could have picked up one of the many pairs of Schoeps caps (41s)  that have been in the YS.

Well, its raining Schoeps lately, so hopefully the 41s are still around when you get it!
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Sound Devices MixPre-6 & MixPre-3

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Re: nbox platinum ...it's here.
« Reply #176 on: April 15, 2015, 02:44:46 PM »
Scooter's Doyle recording kicks ass. Grab it if you haven't already,

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=523789&page=0#startcomments

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2015 04-01

Genre: Blues Rock
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Re: nbox platinum I
« Reply #177 on: April 15, 2015, 08:40:31 PM »
IF you like Doyle try this one too
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=509550

The source is a typo, nbox platinum is used, not nbox +
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Re: nbox platinum I
« Reply #178 on: April 25, 2015, 12:53:35 PM »
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=525634
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=579529

Primus
April 24, 2015
Hershey Theater
Hershay PA

Source: Schoeps mk4 > KCY 250/5 Ig > Nbox Platinum > Sony M10 (24/48)
Lineage: Lexar Card Reader > Wavelab(resample/dither) > CD Wave > Trader's Little Helper (level 8) > tagged using Foobar2000
Location: Row M Seat 104


Taped and Transfered by Tapeworm



Set 1:
01. Intro
02. Those Damned Blue-Collar Tweekers
03. Last Salmon Man
04. Groundhog's Day
05. American Life
06. Over the Falls
07. Lee Van Cleef
08. The Toys Go Winding Down
09. My Name Is Mud
10. Jerry Was a Race Car Driver

Set 2:
Primus & the Chocolate Factory with The Fungi Ensemble:
01. Hello Wonkites
02. Candy Man
03. Cheer Up, Charlie
04. Golden Ticket
05. Lermaninoff
06. Pure Imagination
07. Oompa Augustus
08. Semi-Wondrous Boat Ride
09. Oompa Violet
10. I Want It Now
11. Oompa Veruca
12. Wonkmobile
13. Oompa TV
14. Farewell Wonkites
Encore:
15. crowd
16. Mr. Knowitall
17. Southbound Pachyderm
18. Here Come the Bastards
Mics: Schoeps MK4's | Schoeps MK41's | Schoeps Mk21's
Pre-Amps: Schoeps VMS02ib | Nbox Platinum KCY
Cables: KCY 250/5 Ig (2)
Recorders: Sony M10  | Tascam 70D l Edirol R-44

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Re: nbox platinum I
« Reply #179 on: April 28, 2015, 08:21:50 AM »
Ran some battery tests on the nbox platinum with rechargeable 9 volts and got 38.5 hours so far. The test is still going.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2015, 08:53:59 AM by jmerin »
Mics: Schoeps MK4's | Schoeps MK41's | Schoeps Mk21's
Pre-Amps: Schoeps VMS02ib | Nbox Platinum KCY
Cables: KCY 250/5 Ig (2)
Recorders: Sony M10  | Tascam 70D l Edirol R-44

 

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