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Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« on: February 19, 2008, 08:17:40 PM »
I have been running a V2 > Minime combo for a while and I am ready for some change.  Rite now I run Neumann U89> V2> Minime> HD-P2 normally at 24/48.   I love the way my rig sounds but just have the urge to change things up a bit.  I was considering:

Getting rid of the minime and the HD-P2 and getting a 722
Or
Replacing the V2/Minime with a V3
Or
Getting rid of the Minime and getting a mod for my HD-P2.


Any suggestions would be great.
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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2008, 08:33:17 PM »
I would go for the 722

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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2008, 07:27:20 AM »
I hate to jump on the band wagon especially since I just got my 702 but honestly it is a killer box. The AD stage is awesome & the quality is excellent. I would jump on the bandwagon, there is a reason people fluff these things like they do.
I know you like, tape for people's approval and stuff, and wave your tapes around like they're your dick...  but even you can't actually think section tapes from philips sound good.  



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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2008, 07:37:19 AM »
Keep the minime  ;)
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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2008, 08:19:47 AM »
If I had to build around the u89s, I"d be looking V3. 

I say that because i'm not a huge LD fan for concert taping.  and if I was to use them, i'd want the preamp to be clean, and QUICK.

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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2008, 09:21:31 AM »
If I had to build around the u89s, I"d be looking V3. 

I say that because i'm not a huge LD fan for concert taping.  and if I was to use them, i'd want the preamp to be clean, and QUICK.

bingo.. i'd say v3..    or get a tmod on the hdp2 for choice #2..
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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2008, 09:32:12 AM »
If I had to build around the u89s, I"d be looking V3. 

I say that because i'm not a huge LD fan for concert taping.  and if I was to use them, i'd want the preamp to be clean, and QUICK.

bingo.. i'd say v3..    or get a tmod on the hdp2 for choice #2..

My ears agree (not that I've had the pleasure of running such a rig.)

Either way, send me the mini-me  ;)
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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2008, 09:33:07 AM »
If I had to build around the u89s, I"d be looking V3. 

I say that because i'm not a huge LD fan for concert taping.  and if I was to use them, i'd want the preamp to be clean, and QUICK.

well, Ed's already got a clean, quick, transparent pre-amp, the V2.  While I think the V3 is great (I love mine, especially at 24 bit), I don't know if its what i would recommend here.  honestly, the V3, the Mini-Me, and the 722 all have very nice A/D converters, and while you will hear a difference between the units, its not going to be a major change to the sound.  You say yourself that you love the sound of your rig, and while I understand the urge to change things up, I'd say stick with what you've got.  The MiniMe A/D has a bit more "punch" (for lack of a better word) than the V3's A/D.  So if you're looking to keep some of that, I'd say V2 > 722 would be the way to go.  The V3's A/D is a bit more "laid back", which I find to be very smooth and natural sounding.  The 722's A/D puts a little more "oomph" into the low end, similar to the Mini-Me (but not quite as much, IMO).

I think you should check out a comp between the V3 straight up and the V3 > 722 (which is basically identical to the V2 > 722), it's here:
http://taperssection.com/index.php/topic,81297.0.html
it's an older comp, but the files are still being hosted so check it out.

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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2008, 10:32:55 AM »
Keep the minime  ;)

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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2008, 10:34:34 AM »
I run a 722 and have for a while...

I have run it sans pre and with adn the V3 is my choice for it.... I like the flexability, transparency and ease of use...

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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2008, 11:16:40 AM »
In the end it really depends on what you like.

I have never been a big fan of the v2/v3 units sound wise, top quality products on all levels no doubt, but for what I prefer, it's now apogee. Now the footprint of the minime is another thing all together  ::)

Don't overlook the modded fostex fr2le allin one boxes either. I've heard both the "warm" & "transparent" mods and I like them both alot. The biggest knock on that box is the tiny gain pots, but other than that it is high on the list for me. It is also less than half the cost of the SD722 or 702. Just another option ...
« Last Edit: February 21, 2008, 11:19:04 AM by silentmark »
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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2008, 03:05:12 PM »
Keep the minime  ;)

i run the apogee mini-me and cant say enough good things about it, esp. the way that you are using only the A>D.

i always like to present this point, when discussing the upgrade 'bug'.
there was (AND STILL IS) a reason we (all tapers...) used outboard pre-amps, and A>Ds = they make the recording better
(this is all assuming that size/space is not that big of an issue to you)

All-in-One boxes honestly can never match the bar that was 'set' once I had individual pre-amps/A>D/bodies/etc....
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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2008, 08:03:18 PM »
lol, I say keep it! V2>Mme is sickie sickie   ;D 
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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2008, 07:48:33 AM »
if it were me...i'd get new mics.


I love Grace > apogee rigs.  but...the apogee is a tad colored.  which by itself is not a bad thing.  but adding LD mics to it and my ears find that combo a bit sluggish.

If the mics have to stay, then the preamp should stay too.  my vote then goes for the recorder of choice.


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Re: Upgrade for my Minime? (Advice requested)
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2008, 10:42:12 AM »
Check with Oade to see if he will give the ACM treatment to your MM. He modded the V3 (although I don't know if those were purchased from him). You could have a new flavor for your old preamp. I am sure someone has to have inquired about this by now.

Oade mod to the MME, hmmmmmmm, has anyone ever looked into this ?
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