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Title: Zoom F8n
Post by: heathen on April 09, 2018, 02:46:35 PM
This is all I've been able to find about it so far: https://www.facebook.com/productionsoundsolutions/photos/a.736832513036915.1073741827.736466079740225/1594603153926509/?type=3&hc_ref=ARRkC4qwRz1_fiYg3GZ_AoiJ-KI5AKtrSiHbApAbsp783kzx2PGdE--0MCgGccOruOc

In case the link doesn't work, I've attached the picture.
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: rippleish20 on April 09, 2018, 03:32:08 PM
Improved headphone amp
Improved voltage range for Hirose inputs
Look ahead limiters
XLR inputs selectable line or mic   (yay!  this was my biggest issue with the F8/F4)

Anticipated July delivery with pricing around $1200"
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: voltronic on April 09, 2018, 06:17:42 PM
Improved headphone amp
Improved voltage range for Hirose inputs
Look ahead limiters
XLR inputs selectable line or mic   (yay!  this was my biggest issue with the F8/F4)

Anticipated July delivery with pricing around $1200"

Where do you see this?  I can't find anything on it other than the PSS FB page.
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: rippleish20 on April 09, 2018, 06:25:23 PM
It was posted as a comment in the F8n thread on one of the Zoom groups on FB. I would take it with a grain of salt until it's confirmed.

Zoom posted a video from NAB that confirms the four items. Apparently that all the known changes...


https://www.facebook.com/productionsoundsolutions/videos/1594817170571774/
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: heathen on April 10, 2018, 12:32:43 AM
So far I'm really happy with my F8 so I don't have plans to jump to the F8n based on these changes  :shrug:
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: pohaku on April 10, 2018, 05:28:14 PM
While the announced changes are nice, IMHO, they certainly aren’t significant enough to “upgrade” if you already have an F8 (I do).  And I personally don’t view them as worth an extra $200 over the standard F8.  I have managed to live just fine with the limitations of the combo jacks.  Yeah, better limiters would be quite nice (the best of the added features I think), but most of us know how to deal with setting gain  - been doing it for years without using limiters.  Maybe there are more new features that haven’t been announced.
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: voltronic on April 10, 2018, 10:41:41 PM
While the announced changes are nice, IMHO, they certainly aren’t significant enough to “upgrade” if you already have an F8 (I do).  And I personally don’t view them as worth an extra $200 over the standard F8.  I have managed to live just fine with the limitations of the combo jacks.  Yeah, better limiters would be quite nice (the best of the added features I think), but most of us know how to deal with setting gain  - been doing it for years without using limiters.  Maybe there are more new features that haven’t been announced.

I think the upgraded HP amp may be the most significant for the location sound people.  As far as the limiter, I would say until they put in an analog limiter then it's not worth crowing about.  Like you, I won't use any limiters anyway but many people need them.
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: aaronji on April 11, 2018, 11:05:23 AM
^ ^^ I have always been in the "set levels conservatively and no need for a limiter" camp myself, but, I must admit, I have been using the limiter lately.  I still set the levels conservatively, but, particularly for quiet shows, I find it helps when the Loudest Clapper in the World is right under my mics (which seems to be every quiet show).  Maybe it's because the SD limiters are pretty transparent in that setting, or because they don't engage much, but it seems to help...
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on April 13, 2018, 01:36:01 AM
It is real! Just got to eagerly count down those months until it ships....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wc5Gi_WNvgo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=per6O-gf5vs
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on May 21, 2018, 10:40:36 PM
I wrote up my hopes, dreams, and wishes for the Zoom F8n:

http://ironfilm.co.nz/what-id-like-to-see-in-the-new-zoom-f8n/

(and hopefully even some firmware updates we might see for the original F8/F4)
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on May 25, 2018, 06:03:28 AM
Saw these shared on Facebook from AES Milan 2018:



https://www.facebook.com/IamTheOpposite/videos/pcb.10209898646016779/10209898633776473/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/IamTheOpposite/videos/pcb.10209898646016779/10209898634416489/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on June 04, 2018, 01:00:08 AM
Any one heard any more updates on the F8n? As its proper official announcement should only be handful of days/weeks away now.
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on June 04, 2018, 09:36:05 AM
Price Drop: Gotham Sound and Communications, Inc. has stated that the launch price will be US$999! :-o


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBTjvQzvzB4&lc=z22div4yopvwvlyoc04t1aokgoyeq0kktb4ur5s3v5rabk0h00410.1528118314039355
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on June 04, 2018, 09:57:53 AM
Who will be pre ordering this? I will! This will be great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wfHMSO7Jq4
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on June 04, 2018, 11:12:21 AM
Have been reading the manual, and this confirms the F8n can supply power to the FRC-8:

https://www.zoom-na.com/sites/default/files/products/downloads/pdfs/E_F8n.pdf

Which is nice, as the F4 could do this but the original F8 could not. 
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: heathen on June 04, 2018, 11:21:57 AM
Can you give the lazy among us a summary of the differences between the F8 and F8n?   ;D
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on June 04, 2018, 11:49:24 AM
It really is quite a lot!
But a few of the bigger changes are:
Automix
Hybrid limiters
Line/mic switchable inputs
Maintaining timecode even when switched off
Can be used as an USB interface and recording at the same time
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: rippleish20 on June 04, 2018, 02:00:12 PM
It really is quite a lot!
But a few of the bigger changes are:
Automix
Hybrid limiters
Line/mic switchable inputs
Maintaining timecode even when switched off
Can be used as an USB interface and recording at the same time

Some new or different meter views, the AA battery tray appears to have been eliminated in favor of spots to directly put the batteries...
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: WiFiJeff on June 04, 2018, 02:51:37 PM
Upgraded headphone amp!
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on June 04, 2018, 10:54:15 PM
the AA battery tray appears to have been eliminated in favor of spots to directly put the batteries...

Probably the *ONLY* change the F8n has which I do not like.
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on June 05, 2018, 12:23:50 PM
Sweet news for "F8 original" owners, the F8n app will work with the F8 as well! (hopefully this mean app bug fixes, as it has been a long time since the iOS app had an updated! Plus general usability improvements)

 

"The F8 will be compatible with the F8n app which will include some updates!"

 

Follow the link for the original source info from Zoom themselves:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtIfSGcm4fk&lc=z22div4yopvwvlyoc04t1aokg4stwhpuyygordywqnhdbk0h00410.1528212173721520
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: heathen on June 05, 2018, 12:32:18 PM
Looks like the app is still IOS only  :'(
Title: Re: Zoom F8n
Post by: IronFilm on June 05, 2018, 08:14:05 PM
Sadly :-( As I certainly am an Android fanboy.

Ah well, at least a secondhand iPod Touch is dirt dirt cheap! I will buy one (or two?) one this week to be ready and prepared for my F8n's arrival! Heck, even an iPad Mini is a cheap investment.