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Gear / Technical Help => Battery Boxes, Preamps, Mixers, ADCs, and Processors => Topic started by: Swanny on August 16, 2005, 01:21:12 PM
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I am curious about myteks stereo 192. Anyone have any experience with this thing? What kind of voltage requirements? runtimes? And of course the sound?
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wrong section for this ;)
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Swanny, see Mr. Scott Brown. This will be particularly interesting to you, because he runs 4022's. I have only one mytek tape, but it's a smoker. warren and friends, split like 10' on the balcony, I *believe* that Scott ran 4022>v3 analog out>mytek. I really like the sound. Muj has run one extensively as well, I believe.
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I am curious about myteks stereo 192. Anyone have any experience with this thing? What kind of voltage requirements? runtimes? And of course the sound?
Swanny the mytek *thing*.... ;D........is the real alternative to ad1000, it's clean,detailed, solid, and imaging sounds nice.
;D
:-* mytek :-*
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Swanny, see Mr. Scott Brown. This will be particularly interesting to you, because he runs 4022's. I have only one mytek tape, but it's a smoker. warren and friends, split like 10' on the balcony, I *believe* that Scott ran 4022>v3 analog out>mytek. I really like the sound. Muj has run one extensively as well, I believe.
yep, 4022 > v3 pre > mytek a/d. i LOVE it. very detailed, transparent and pleasing to the ears. runs on 8v and above
but if you order one, be sure to have michal remove the phase inversion on one channel. they seem to be shipping with one channel inverted.
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How much do they cost? I am seriously considering this one... Would it be hard to adjust the gain with a pre like the m148?
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i think it's around 1300 now. but the main thing: it's 24 bit ONLY. no 16 bit from this box. it's juts a sick box that does 1 thing and does it very well
and it's variable gain, so as long as the 148 was hot enough you'd be fine. i don't believe the mytek will add any gain, just subtract..
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I gotta say, the few recordings I've heard V3 > Mytek sound *excellent*! If I had the cash, once I get a 24-bit recorder I'd consider getting a Mytek one so I can run V3 > 16-bit and V3 > Mytek 24-bit. But alas, I don't have the cash. And besides...I'm currently schlepping two full sets of gear around (AKG C414s > T+ UA5 > JB3, Schoeps MKx/KC5/CMC6 > V3 > JB3), so it's not like I need more gear to carry around!
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But Brian, you know you'll want to borrow the 722 when I hit town. :)
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But Brian, you know you'll want to borrow the 722 when I hit town. :)
Who, me?!? ;)
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CALL CRAIG CALISTRO FOR PRICING!!!
he is a bit excentric but wow the prices,holy smokes!!
(203) 891-8918
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What is the advantage of V3>Mytek over V2>Mytek? Is it because the V3 is easier to power?
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What is the advantage of V3>Mytek over V2>Mytek? Is it because the V3 is easier to power?
It isn't easier to power. No real advantage other than...it allows 16-bit output from the V3 as backup/patch in addition to the 24-bit Mytek. And if you've already got the V3...why trade it in for a V2.
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I gotta say, the few recordings I've heard V3 > Mytek sound *excellent*! If I had the cash, once I get a 24-bit recorder I'd consider getting a Mytek one so I can run V3 > 16-bit and V3 > Mytek 24-bit. But alas, I don't have the cash. And besides...I'm currently schlepping two full sets of gear around (AKG C414s > T+ UA5 > JB3, Schoeps MKx/KC5/CMC6 > V3 > JB3), so it's not like I need more gear to carry around!
um.....and it's not like you need two complete rigs either, Slutinder. ;) ;D Get rid of some of that gear and get yourself a Mytek and a Flashtracker. ;D
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What is the advantage of V3>Mytek over V2>Mytek? Is it because the V3 is easier to power?
It isn't easier to power. No real advantage other than...it allows 16-bit output from the V3 as backup/patch in addition to the 24-bit Mytek. And if you've already got the V3...why trade it in for a V2.
I guess I was thinking the V2 needed a 6V SLA, but there probably isn't a reason you couldn't power it off a Walmart battery with a 4pin terminated cable. Just seems like most people seem to run the V2 off a SLA. Good point about 16bit. I was just thinking that selling a V3 and getting a V2 would make the Mytek more affordable, but if you've already got a V3 it would be nice to be able to run backup and give patches. Thanks :)
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and it's variable gain, so as long as the 148 was hot enough you'd be fine. i don't believe the mytek will add any gain, just subtract..
That sucks I usually have to add +20 or more gain besides what the 148 offers, I guess my search goes on.
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check with mytek. i may be wrong
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and it's variable gain, so as long as the 148 was hot enough you'd be fine. i don't believe the mytek will add any gain, just subtract..
That sucks I usually have to add +20 or more gain besides what the 148 offers, I guess my search goes on.
what? same crappy design as the 2k? boo. :(
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no. it's got a level knob and even separate trim pots. but i don't think it'll ADD gain, just take it away. same as most a/ds
so if the 148 isn't hot enouogh, i think you're out of luck. but i may be wrong.
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no. it's got a level knob and even separate trim pots. but i don't think it'll ADD gain, just take it away. same as most a/ds
so if the 148 isn't hot enouogh, i think you're out of luck. but i may be wrong.
1k, bm1, mme, v3 will all add gain.
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the 1k, mm3 and v3 also are preamps though, so they already have the electronics for adding gain, right?
tood r, where are you? :)
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no. it's got a level knob and even separate trim pots. but i don't think it'll ADD gain, just take it away. same as most a/ds
so if the 148 isn't hot enouogh, i think you're out of luck. but i may be wrong.
1k, bm1, mme, v3 will all add gain.
sbm-1, ad500e, gp-adc20
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some ad converters have line stage amps prior to the adc chipset.....othes do not. that's what i always thought.
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i was under the imopression that most straight up a/d converters didn't add gain, but only took away
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can't you raise the internal gain on the 722 when running line in up to like +12db or am I mistaken? i can't remember and i am work without my 722 to look at
edit: woops...that doesn't count as it is an all-1-one. but yeah scott a lot fo the dedicated AD converters especially bigger rackmounted ones for studio or multitrack recording use have a fixed gain such that calibration between the pre and it are necessary.
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i was under the imopression that most straight up a/d converters didn't add gain, but only took away
I think technically you are correct...but you get lots of headroom with the boxes I mentioned, and that headroom is attenuable. Now I *know* that with the 2k, you can't adjust the gain at all, but just add headroom to allow more signal from the preamp, but only to the max the pre will send.
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i love my 192, though i've used it but once. don't feel like i'm sacrificing a thing leaving the apogee at home in favor of the mytek.
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Hey all,
I really don't want to spam on my first post but I just wanted to let you know that I am working in customer support for Mytek digital now. If you have any questions please feel free to shoot me an e-mail at david at mytekdigital.com. Thanks a bunch!
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Hey all,
I really don't want to spam on my first post but I just wanted to let you know that I am working in customer support for Mytek digital now. If you have any questions please feel free to shoot me an e-mail at david at mytekdigital.com. Thanks a bunch!
thanks for posting buddy!
+T
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Hey all,
I really don't want to spam on my first post but I just wanted to let you know that I am working in customer support for Mytek digital now. If you have any questions please feel free to shoot me an e-mail at david at mytekdigital.com. Thanks a bunch!
thanks for posting buddy!
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I'm really happy to be here. I'm not really a sales guy at all and I really hope that I can learn a lot from you guys. I'm very new to live recording and I'd love to see how it all works. Michal hired me to help him answer questions about the gear so he can deal with designing stuff so I hope that me posting these first couple of times is not considered spam. Thanks again!
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Hey all,
I really don't want to spam on my first post but I just wanted to let you know that I am working in customer support for Mytek digital now. If you have any questions please feel free to shoot me an e-mail at david at mytekdigital.com. Thanks a bunch!
thanks for posting buddy!
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I'm really happy to be here. I'm not really a sales guy at all and I really hope that I can learn a lot from you guys. I'm very new to live recording and I'd love to see how it all works. Michal hired me to help him answer questions about the gear so he can deal with designing stuff so I hope that me posting these first couple of times is not considered spam. Thanks again!
not at all man. Not at all. Im sure folks could learn a lot from you. Theres also a Retails sales thread if yall put any of those stereo 192s on clearance.! ;)
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Hey all,
I really don't want to spam on my first post but I just wanted to let you know that I am working in customer support for Mytek digital now. If you have any questions please feel free to shoot me an e-mail at david at mytekdigital.com. Thanks a bunch!
thanks for posting buddy!
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I'm really happy to be here. I'm not really a sales guy at all and I really hope that I can learn a lot from you guys. I'm very new to live recording and I'd love to see how it all works. Michal hired me to help him answer questions about the gear so he can deal with designing stuff so I hope that me posting these first couple of times is not considered spam. Thanks again!
not at all man. Not at all. Im sure folks could learn a lot from you. Theres also a Retails sales thread if yall put any of those stereo 192s on clearance.! ;)
Cool! I really hope to become a part of the community. Thanks again!
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David....I also think it is great that you are here. with more people like you around, this site will be even better with direct source info form gear manufacturer representitives.
welcome aboard!
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glad to have you :)
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david, can you give us any info on power consumption of the stereo192? i never got real numbers from Michal. any chance we can get numbers at 8v, or 9v?
thanks!
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I'll check on the power consumption question right away. Thanks.
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thank you!
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it's the best-sounding portable a/d money can buy, IMO. it's better than my trak2, which i've since sold since running this exclusively. check below: combinations of 4022 / 4015 / 4011 > LAT 4/9's silver > neve pre > LAT 6/9's copper > mytek > 722
DSD version retaining 24/192 PCM capability will be out after new year. i'll have one of those, too.
http://www2.bc.edu/~jonescx/dmb/sdm.mp3 [T. Anastasio @ Roseland FOB DFC]
http://www2.bc.edu/~jonescx/vegas/billies.mp3 [Frontman of Best Band in The Universe feat. Best Guitarist Ever]
http://www2.bc.edu/~jonescx/dmb/night_three.mp3 [Best Band in The Universe]
http://www2.bc.edu/~jonescx/dmb/night_one.mp3 [Best Band in The Universe....again]
http://www2.bc.edu/~jonescx/dg/slow_motion.mp3 [Some Euro Dude @ RCMH, nearly DFC]
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Got confirmation from Mihal that the mytek would work
fine at its best off 7v. He also said that 7v is not only the minimum voltage needed, but that anything over that number is wasted as heat emissions and does nothing in terms of actually powering the unit.I am taping a bach organ concert tommorow night, will post samples.
http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=67202 <<is my first effort with the mytek. am really enjoying it so far.
-Teddy
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I've been reading up on the mytek adc a lot lately. the only downside it looks like to me is no 16 bit. prices are outstanding, considering they can probably be had for a little less than what they are advertised for.
mytek 24/96 : $899
24/192 : $1395
does anyone on the site owns one besides Chris Jones, Nic, and Scott Brown
how do you guys like it ?
could someone send me a PM regarding current pricing?
if you look around you might find the mytek 192 cheaper than the retail price listed above
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Tim, PM sent. :)
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what is the difference other than extended sampling rate between the stereo96 and stereo192 adc versions?
can the 96 run on dc? i thought i read it was hard wired? the 192 does run on bats right?
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what is the difference other than extended sampling rate between the stereo96 and stereo192 adc versions?
can the 96 run on dc? i thought i read it was hard wired? the 192 does run on bats right?
the 96 is ac powered, the 192 can run on batts. , the 192 has improved quality both soundwise and components inside it
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>>Got confirmation from Mihal that the mytek would work fine at its best off 7v. He also said that 7v is not only the minimum voltage needed, but that anything over that number is wasted as heat emissions and does nothing in terms of actually powering the unit.I am taping a bach organ concert tommorow night, will post samples.
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i've been powering it off a 9v lithium and it's been perfect. can easliy last a full show, and it doesn't get hot. it gets really hot with 12v
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>>Got confirmation from Mihal that the mytek would work fine at its best off 7v. He also said that 7v is not only the minimum voltage needed, but that anything over that number is wasted as heat emissions and does nothing in terms of actually powering the unit.I am taping a bach organ concert tommorow night, will post samples.
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i've been powering it off a 9v lithium and it's been perfect. can easliy last a full show, and it doesn't get hot. it gets really hot with 12v
Awesome Scott.Thats good to hear. I was under the impression that it performed best at 12v until Mihal corrected me. Ive been using AC power so far, but I need to get a lithium soon I suppose. Do you have the link to the one you are using or one similar??I also understand that the DC Jack/Connector isnt a normal size??(2.5 mm??) I need to find one of those too.
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i just got my lithium at walmart
the cable i'm using was an old minime cable, but I have one of the first units, which actually came *without* a hole for the dc jack (manufacturer forgot to drill it) so michal made one himself...
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i just got my lithium at walmart
the cable i'm using was an old minime cable, but I have one of the first units, which actually came *without* a hole for the dc jack (manufacturer forgot to drill it) so michal made one himself...
Ah, thas right , I remember you mentioning that before. Thanks again.
Teddy
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DSD version retaining 24/192 PCM capability will be out after new year.
Too bad iit cant be dc powered . I asked about it yesterday when I called to ask him some other questions. Looks like the 192 will still be the only DC unit...
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the DPAs are low sensitivity. I ran the brick and gefells with the mytek and never had an issue, even with some acoustic solo instruments that werent amplified. no, the meters arent why one would purchase it , for sure...but the sound is very much worth it. With PA music , the gefells, etc..you shouldnt have any problems, Tim.
so the consensus on the metering is that it sucks? it looks about the same as the ua5 with it's -3, 0 lights. i am thinking about selling my v3 and picking up one of these and would be running psp2>mytek>671. the psp2 outputs at a minimum ~20 dB and then +6 and +12 after that. would i be getting enough gain with this setup and my mics? i noticed that scott wasn't getting enough with a pair of dpa's is why i ask. i own gefells, sp c4s, naks, and soon a pair of p48 active modded teacs (rebranded naks).
(http://www.mytekdigital.com/images/products%2072dpi/stereo192adc-72dpi.jpg)
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I Loved everything about that setup, Tim. No complaints. Ill post a show on the NY tracker or B+P you a show of some PA stuff with that setup.If I have it my way,,,that exact setup will make its way back to me somehow. >:D I had to sell to pick up some schoeps omnis for the classical stuff I record, which is way more abundant than secular/rock/alternative concerts here.. Damn expensive, those things. :-\
the DPAs are low sensitivity. I ran the brick and gefells with the mytek and never had an issue, even with some acoustic solo instruments that werent amplified. no, the meters arent why one would purchase it , for sure...but the sound is very much worth it. With PA music , the gefells, etc..you shouldnt have any problems, Tim.
yea, i figured i'd be ok with phantom powered mics...........
i don't really no what to stick behind the mytek to get solid metering besides the 671. :hmmm:
what didn't you like about the brick>mytek setup? that is essentially what i'm running if i go psp2>mytek
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so the consensus on the metering is that it sucks?
It's pretty much the same as on my old MME, and that was useable. Between that and getting familiar with the MT, it's totally fine. Keep in mind, you won't be able to use your JB3 anymore. Unless, of course, you dig truncation.
Teddy - what's the situation with your dealer? A little birdie told me they were backordered...
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now i'm confused after all of this talk about the mytek and the V3...
can the V3 output 24-bit or just 16? or both?
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now i'm confused after all of this talk about the mytek and the V3...
can the V3 output 24-bit or just 16? or both?
V3's A/D can output either 24 bit (ANSR off) or 16 bit signal (ANSR on). What Scott Brown and others are doing is passing the Mytek an Analog signal (via XLR's) from the V3 and using the Mytek's A/D instead of the V3's.
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now i'm confused after all of this talk about the mytek and the V3...
can the V3 output 24-bit or just 16? or both?
V3's A/D can output either 24 bit (ANSR off) or 16 bit signal (ANSR on). What Scott Brown and others are doing is passing the Mytek an Analog signal (via XLR's) from the V3 and using the Mytek's A/D instead of the V3's.
thanks for the clarification!
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so the consensus on the metering is that it sucks?
It's pretty much the same as on my old MME, and that was useable. Between that and getting familiar with the MT, it's totally fine. Keep in mind, you won't be able to use your JB3 anymore. Unless, of course, you dig truncation.
Teddy - what's the situation with your dealer? A little birdie told me they were backordered...
After paying the dealer , since they are assembled in poland I get all mine direct from poland instead of taking an extra shipping step. Poland is EU like germany so no customs nonsense.
Teddy
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eaa. without a doubt. ;D
I like it much better than the grace.
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What Scott Brown and others are doing is passing the Mytek an Analog signal (via XLR's) from the V3 and using the Mytek's A/D instead of the V3's.
yeah ever since i heard the mytek, the v3's just been a preamp for me...
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Just curious, but has anyone ran the Mytek Stereo 96? (http://www.macmidimusic.com/prod.itml/icOid/5850)
All the talk here seems to center on the 192. They seem to be the exact same, only the 96 can do 16 bit as well, and only goes up to 24/96, not 24/192....oh yeah, it's also $400 cheaper.
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Just curious, but has anyone ran the Mytek Stereo 96? (http://www.macmidimusic.com/prod.itml/icOid/5850)
All the talk here seems to center on the 192. They seem to be the exact same, only the 96 can do 16 bit as well, and only goes up to 24/96, not 24/192....oh yeah, it's also $400 cheaper.
No battery power.
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has anyone compared a mytek 192 to a Benchmark AD2402-96 aka sonic ad2k ?
has anyone ever run v3 > benchmark/sonic ad2k+ ?
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I didn't know benchmark was based out of syracuse, 1/2 hour away from me!
Benchmark Media Systems, Inc.
5925 Court Street Road
Syracuse, NY 13206-1707
good question;
i have compared the new adc-1 with the lavry blue.
the benchmark unit is very detailed both in terms of HF details and low en details (including the room aspect)
the adc-1 is the perfect tapers adc in theory , as it has full scale metering, 3 gain stage setting!!!! and full routing possibilities and back up.
the only sad part is....it's AC powered.
for me and us at half-cast studios it was slightly more hifi than the lavry blue.
the bencmark adc-1 also soft clips which is also cool for us
thanks for prolyd oslo for testing the unit.
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Just curious, but has anyone ran the Mytek Stereo 96? (http://www.macmidimusic.com/prod.itml/icOid/5850)
All the talk here seems to center on the 192. They seem to be the exact same, only the 96 can do 16 bit as well, and only goes up to 24/96, not 24/192....oh yeah, it's also $400 cheaper.
the 192 is better,and is dc powered. also the stereo 06 does not soft clip. Not sure if the 192 does, i haven't had the luxury yet to try it.
if you buy mytek you need to be in the new york area , if something happens to the unit ( i think i told that to scott brown and chris jones when they were planning to buy theirs as well)
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told that to scott brown and chris jones when they were planning to buy theirs as well)
I can also send direct to poland for people. A lot faster that way. Thats where their assembly is.
Teddy