Topic: Proof that Church Audio mics are freaking awesome!!!!

[elwoodblues]

How about another testament to team church.  This was my 3rd recording with the rig i bought from him, and my 5th attempt overall.  Sorry the sample is so short, it is all that is allowed. there are a few on the dime page though.


http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-nfo.php?id=153181



The Police
2007-07-02
Scottrade Center
St. Louis, Mo
FOB Section C Row 8
Church Audio Cardoids/Edirol R-09@ 24bit/44.1khz
Tracked in Goldwave>Dither to 16bit/44.1khz/FLAC/You
Taped/Transferred By: RandalP


Setlist:
01-"Message in a Bottle"
02-"Synchronicity II"
03-"Walking on the Moon"
04-"Voices Inside My Head/When the World is Running Down, You Make the Best of What's Still Around"
05-"Don't Stand So Close to Me"
06-"Driven To Tears"
07-"The Bed's Too Big Without You"
08-"Truth Hits Everybody"
09-"Every Little Thing She Does is Magic"
10-"Wrapped Around Your Finger"
11-"De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da"
12-"Invisible Sun"
13-"Walking In Your Footsteps"
14-"Can't Stand Losing You"

15-Encore one:"Roxanne"

16-Encore two:"King of Pain"
17-"So Lonely"
18-"Every Breath You Take"
19-Next to You


***PLEASE DO NOT ENCODE THIS TO MP3 OR ANY OTHER LOW QUALITY FILE TYPE AND SPREAD***
***TRADE AS HIGH QUALITY FLAC OR WAV FILES INSTEAD***
***PLEASE DO NOT BUY OR SELL THIS RECORDING***



THIS IS MY 5TH ATTEMPT AT TAPING AND I THINK I FINALLY GOT IT DIALED IN. THIS IS MY FIRST UPLOAD
AND THE FIRST RECORDING I FEEL CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO PUT OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE.
IF YOU HAVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, I SNEAK MY GEAR IN AND CHANCE IT, NOT YOU.

[dorrcoq]

Looks like you did good, man - over 1000 downloads and counting!  +T

[Church-Audio]

How about another testament to team church.  This was my 3rd recording with the rig i bought from him, and my 5th attempt overall.  Sorry the sample is so short, it is all that is allowed. there are a few on the dime page though.


http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-nfo.php?id=153181



The Police
2007-07-02
Scottrade Center
St. Louis, Mo
FOB Section C Row 8
Church Audio Cardoids/Edirol R-09@ 24bit/44.1khz
Tracked in Goldwave>Dither to 16bit/44.1khz/FLAC/You
Taped/Transferred By: RandalP


Setlist:
01-"Message in a Bottle"
02-"Synchronicity II"
03-"Walking on the Moon"
04-"Voices Inside My Head/When the World is Running Down, You Make the Best of What's Still Around"
05-"Don't Stand So Close to Me"
06-"Driven To Tears"
07-"The Bed's Too Big Without You"
08-"Truth Hits Everybody"
09-"Every Little Thing She Does is Magic"
10-"Wrapped Around Your Finger"
11-"De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da"
12-"Invisible Sun"
13-"Walking In Your Footsteps"
14-"Can't Stand Losing You"

15-Encore one:"Roxanne"

16-Encore two:"King of Pain"
17-"So Lonely"
18-"Every Breath You Take"
19-Next to You


***PLEASE DO NOT ENCODE THIS TO MP3 OR ANY OTHER LOW QUALITY FILE TYPE AND SPREAD***
***TRADE AS HIGH QUALITY FLAC OR WAV FILES INSTEAD***
***PLEASE DO NOT BUY OR SELL THIS RECORDING***



THIS IS MY 5TH ATTEMPT AT TAPING AND I THINK I FINALLY GOT IT DIALED IN. THIS IS MY FIRST UPLOAD
AND THE FIRST RECORDING I FEEL CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO PUT OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE.
IF YOU HAVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, I SNEAK MY GEAR IN AND CHANCE IT, NOT YOU.

Hook me up with a copy

[Nick's Picks]

LOL...

here's a question..
and please, be objective as possible.
do you find the church cards better than the 4.7k MOD 853s ?
are they smaller?
I needs to see a picture of these suckers.  I'll check ebay.

[mrruin]

LOL...

here's a question..
and please, be objective as possible.
do you find the church cards better than the 4.7k MOD 853s ?
are they smaller?
I needs to see a picture of these suckers.  I'll check ebay.

is anyone able to answer this by chance? Im also curious.

[illconditioned]

LOL...

here's a question..
and please, be objective as possible.
do you find the church cards better than the 4.7k MOD 853s ?
are they smaller?
I needs to see a picture of these suckers.  I'll check ebay.

is anyone able to answer this by chance? Im also curious.

Better is a matter of opinion.  Personally *I* like them a bit better.  What I found is they sound a bit more natural, less "colored" (frequencies balanced), and a bit more "forgiving" in general than AT853, but they have *a bit* less "detail".  They are certainly the mic I would reach for first, if I wanted a mini cardioid.  Although now I'm focussing more on omnis, or better cardioids, like Beyerdynamic, etc.

So, I think given the price I would start with Church's mics.  You will probably end up keeping them as a backup/loaner pair even if you move on to something else.

Now I have: AT853 (lots of them, various caps, etc), Church's cards, Senn MKE40, Shure MX183/185.  All have benefits/tradeoffs... that's why I keep them all, lol.

  Richard

[mrruin]

yeah, I have the sens and the ATs but listening to this Black Crowes recording Im very tempted to get a CA rig. Not sure if my ATs could pull a tape like that.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=508817

[illconditioned]

yeah, I have the sens and the ATs but listening to this Black Crowes recording Im very tempted to get a CA rig. Not sure if my ATs could pull a tape like that.

http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=508817

Oh yeah, the Senns are really good as far as detail goes, but very lacking in bass.

Remember also that so much is luck/placement of the mics.  I've got some just killer AT853 recordings as well.  The only way to know for sure is to run them side by side, or at least run them in venues/situations you know very well.

  Richard

[austaper]

Here is a sample with the CA cards and the 9100 from a recent show  http://www.dimeadozen.org/attachments/165785/2075655/come%20together%20sample.mp3

[heyitsmejess]

ca cards and 9100 sample

http://www.sendspace.com/file/jjo4nf

[Arni99]

I had them all: church cards, HLSC-1, at853U, at943.
The absolutely best recording I ever taped was with neither of the above mics BUT with my dpa4061s at an open air show in Austria.

Also in boomy halls or small clubs I like the dpa4061 result more than any of the above cardioid recordings I did at the same venues.

Sure a highpassfilter is needed sometimes for reducing little boomyness from the omnis, but the result still is more listenable for ME than any cardioid recording.
I simply think, dpa4061 omnis sound more natural(especially in low frequencies with fat bass).
Others might have a different taste of course .
For me cardioids simply sound to thin and "filtered".

It´s all about finding the sweet spot and mounting your mics properly and NOT MOVING yourself for 2 hours .

The church mics are hard to beat for their price.
Yes they are about half size of the at853ies and have the best low-frequency response of the above mentioned cardioids.

[danzz1234]

This might help:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/rmh61i

CA cards > H320 (no bbox/preamp used)

[EarlyMorningRain]

just checked out the mp3 samples (on the first page of thread) and do have to say am a bit impressed by the comparisons of these mics!

Now, being an owner of Core Sound Cards myself, I do hear a "sound" (that I have grown accustomed to in my own recordings) on the CA example (small mics trying to to do the best they can), however I would have to lean towards the Schoeps myself as to which I personally prefer. I like the extra detail those give.

From a cost standpoint (which is very real for me - "what's the best I can do for less"?), big kudo's for the CA mics !!

I agree, that both examples are a bit bassy, but then Dino Jr doesn't exactly put on a quiet show either.

+t!

[GroundHog420]

Okay, for any of you on DIME, here's a show I recently recorded in stealth mode, with the Church-Audio ST-11 cardiod mics > Church-Audio ST-20 pre-amp (-20dB/8kHz roll-off) > M-Audio 24/69 Microtrack (44.1kHz .wav), and the mics were clipped to my glasses, right in front of my my ears.

It's a Robyn Hitchcock acoustic set, by the way:

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=172444

The opening set, by Sean Nelson, is here:

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=172484

I made one change between the sets (switching the pre-amp from +20dB to -20dB), otherwise, recorded exactly the same.  There are 128kbps .mp3 samples for each set, in case anyone wants to just give a quick listen.

I'm loving the new mics, I'd be interested in hearing other people's thoughts on the way they sound.

[bhakti]

just ordered a 9100 preamp and the CA cards... super keen...  this thread makes me even more excited... thanks for the all the posts...