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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2012, 10:51:48 AM »
No, from MK to PFA could also be balanced; it's probably good to 10m before losses to cable capacitance become an issue.

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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2012, 11:20:40 AM »
I don't really want a KCY PFA, I would rather have MK>6pin minixlr connection or binder connection>PFA!!  Then I could run into any P48 pre and still have my KCY setup.  I do have 2 KCY cables so I guess I could have one hacked since it doesn't seem much cheaper to just buy the MK connectors new. 
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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2012, 12:17:03 PM »
You will when you see the first KCY PFA!  ;D >:D

I'm not sure I understand why you would want to hack one of your KCY's though... That does not seem like a good idea at all.

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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2012, 12:26:59 PM »
It would make a balanced cable!!  Then I could use a more flexible cable like Belden 1804a.  I'm going to contact a few places to see how much a set of mk would set me back. 

You will when you see the first KCY PFA!  ;D >:D

I'm not sure I understand why you would want to hack one of your KCY's though... That does not seem like a good idea at all.
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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2012, 12:35:23 PM »
It would make a balanced cable!!  Then I could use a more flexible cable like Belden 1804a.  I'm going to contact a few places to see how much a set of mk would set me back. 

You will when you see the first KCY PFA!  ;D >:D

I'm not sure I understand why you would want to hack one of your KCY's though... That does not seem like a good idea at all.

I think I need you to write this out so I understand. Are you planning to just chop the KCY at the point where both MK connectors enter the junction box and then hard-wire PFAs to what will be a very short 1' pigtail?

The cable bewteen the MK connector and Junction box is like to be 3-conductor schoeps colette cable. The cable running from the Junction box to the binder is 4-conductor KS cable. Unless you are OK with 1' pigtails, you're gonna need someone to actually open up the MK connector and rewire them with longer lengths of 3-conductor colette cable.

I think just selling your KCY and having new MK's made would be a better, cheaper, option. No sense in destroying a perfectly good KCY, however chopping a KC in half makes a ton of sense.

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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2012, 12:45:02 PM »
I was thinking of having it recabled from the MK!!  Having about 16' of cable terminate into a binder then have a binder PFA to connect to it.  I'm still thinking it through so I'll see what happens.  I contacted a few places about prices on MK and I'm waiting to hear back.  Posthorn has them for $296, but waiting to hear back from Redding and Vark.  A used Vark KCY sells for not much more than if not less than the new price of connectors at posthorn.  The last Vark KCY in the YS went for like $550ish. 
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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2012, 02:16:44 PM »
And lets not forget that SchoepsNBox can make you a cable to go from mkxx>nbox cable>pfa>any +48v preamp ;)

Any idea what he is charging for just the nbox cables?

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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2012, 02:17:42 PM »
But arent trhe AKI cables just binder>binder extensions ??? Because I had Robb make me a 15' KCY Binder>Binder extension. Isnt that the same thing ???

http://www.schoeps.de/en/products/aki2c

it's the binder > cmc body piece.

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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2012, 02:23:22 PM »
And I would LOVE a KCY>PFA Cable so I could run ANY +48v Preamp ;) Count me in :) Its a helluva lot cheaper than buying a VST 62iu :)
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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2012, 03:19:41 PM »
Its a helluva lot cheaper than buying a VST 62iu :)

With alot of these solutions being driven by the high price of a corresponding Schoeps product, it makes you wonder if Schoeps wouldn't just lower their prices at some point, which would be nice.

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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #25 on: February 09, 2012, 03:39:10 PM »
hah! that's a good one steve... you're a real jokester! :)

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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2012, 03:46:18 PM »
hah! that's a good one steve... you're a real jokester! :)

He he.  I was dreaming.

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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2012, 04:02:49 PM »
Checked with Posthorn, Redding, and Vark.  The MK is $296 from you vendor of choice.  Redding only had one in stock and Vark was out of them. 
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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2012, 06:05:33 PM »
Checked with Posthorn, Redding, and Vark.  The MK is $296 from you vendor of choice.  Redding only had one in stock and Vark was out of them.

Did you happen to ask if it comes unassembled?

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Re: Converting Schoeps KC5 cables to separate KCY and AK I cables
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2012, 06:12:07 PM »
I didn't
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