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Wav splitting on a Mac?
« on: August 16, 2009, 02:35:38 PM »
CDWAVE is a no-go on Macs, and that's what I used to use.  I have Audacity, but I don't see a track split option.  Help!

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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2009, 03:22:46 PM »
Create a label at the part where you want to split the tracks ( Tracks> create label at selection)  and then use the (File> export multiple) function to create two .wav tracks.

If you have the beta version you can export them straight to .flac... or whatever type of file you'd like... hope that helps...
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2009, 03:52:38 PM »
thanks I will try that
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2009, 05:40:54 PM »
Not sure if this is what you're after or if E@rl's got you covered, but if you're trying to work on just one channel, on the left side of the wav there's a scroll down that allows you to "split stereo track" and "make stereo track" (once it's been split).
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2009, 05:56:26 PM »
just looking to track shows by song.  I found the easiest way was to plug my external in a PC and use CDWAVE, haha.  Wish I could find a similar mac product.
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2009, 05:59:06 PM »
just looking to track shows by song.  I found the easiest way was to plug my external in a PC and use CDWAVE, haha.  Wish I could find a similar mac product.

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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2009, 06:12:46 PM »
thanks chris!
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2009, 06:15:10 PM »
just looking to track shows by song.  I found the easiest way was to plug my external in a PC and use CDWAVE, haha.  Wish I could find a similar mac product.

Oh, gotcha.  It's easier if you use labels in Audacity instead of the method E@rl described, IMO.  So you've got the full show up, follow these instructions:
1.  Find where you want to split the track and set your cursor there.  You MUST make a mark where you want your first track in Audacity.  Everything before that first track mark doesn't export when you set tracks this way.
2.  From the top menu, select Project, scroll down to Add Label At Selection. (If it's the first track or last track, you'll want to do your fades immediately by selecting that track marker, drag the cursor to where you want the fade to start/stop, then make the fade).
3.  Make the rest of your tracks, and when done, from the top menu, select File, then scroll down to Export Multiple, then...
4.  Task box pops up, select WAV, select your location, select Numbering Consecutively (then make any changes in the naming box if you want), then Export.  It will number your wavs for you do to the Numbering Consecutively selection.

It'll create an "extra" track with all the wav following your last track marker.  Just delete that file and you've got a fully tracked out show.

And of course, on a Mac you may need to fix SBE's (I use xACT), though I know there's a method of creating your tracks in Audacity so SBE's aren't created to begin with.  If you do a search here you'll find it in one of the many Audacity threads.  I'm just so accustomed to doing it the other way it's become a habit.
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2009, 07:14:32 PM »
just looking to track shows by song.  I found the easiest way was to plug my external in a PC and use CDWAVE, haha.  Wish I could find a similar mac product.

Oh, gotcha.  It's easier if you use labels in Audacity instead of the method E@rl described, IMO.  So you've got the full show up, follow these instructions:
1.  Find where you want to split the track and set your cursor there.  You MUST make a mark where you want your first track in Audacity.  Everything before that first track mark doesn't export when you set tracks this way.
2.  From the top menu, select Project, scroll down to Add Label At Selection. (If it's the first track or last track, you'll want to do your fades immediately by selecting that track marker, drag the cursor to where you want the fade to start/stop, then make the fade).
3.  Make the rest of your tracks, and when done, from the top menu, select File, then scroll down to Export Multiple, then...
4.  Task box pops up, select WAV, select your location, select Numbering Consecutively (then make any changes in the naming box if you want), then Export.  It will number your wavs for you do to the Numbering Consecutively selection.

It'll create an "extra" track with all the wav following your last track marker.  Just delete that file and you've got a fully tracked out show.

And of course, on a Mac you may need to fix SBE's (I use xACT), though I know there's a method of creating your tracks in Audacity so SBE's aren't created to begin with.  If you do a search here you'll find it in one of the many Audacity threads.  I'm just so accustomed to doing it the other way it's become a habit.


This is what i was going for just didnt want to type it all out... plus i wasnt sure if you were tracking out a show or just splitting one track.
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2009, 10:50:50 PM »
Dean (or anyone) - how do you get the export at 24-bit wav? I have a 24/96 file that I'm splitting but I don't have just plain "WAV" in my Export Format dropdown - it gives me the 16-bit wav/aiff option but no 24-bit option. I can do "Other uncompressed files" but when I select WAV and 24-bit there, it exports as 16/96. And am I correct that there's no need to fix SBE's on 24-bit files?

Update - export as 24-bit FLAC appears to work correctly so I'm mystified as to why 24-bit WAV won't work. What am I doing wrong?
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2009, 08:14:06 AM »
Dean (or anyone) - how do you get the export at 24-bit wav? I have a 24/96 file that I'm splitting but I don't have just plain "WAV" in my Export Format dropdown - it gives me the 16-bit wav/aiff option but no 24-bit option. I can do "Other uncompressed files" but when I select WAV and 24-bit there, it exports as 16/96. And am I correct that there's no need to fix SBE's on 24-bit files?

Update - export as 24-bit FLAC appears to work correctly so I'm mystified as to why 24-bit WAV won't work. What am I doing wrong?

It seems like you're doing it right from your description, but when I do what I think you're doing as described above, it def exports as 24 bit.  I use an older version of Audacity, so I hope they haven't changed anything in regards to 24 bit export.  Here's the exact path I use - perhaps I'm doing something you missed??
Audacity>
Preferences>
In the "Uncompressed Export Format section, select the dropdown/scrollbar>
It's likely set to "WAV (Microsoft 16 bit PCM)", so select "Other">
This creates a pop up box, in the Header selection, select WAV, in the Encoding selection, select "Signed 24 bit PCM", then OK>
Select OK on the main Preferences menu

Should be good to go as best I can tell. 

And you're correct, no need nor ability to fix SBEs in 24 bit.  It's not recognized as "CD quality" or something like that, which is the "error message" that pops when I tried to fix 'em at 24 bit in xACT.

HTH.  Let me know if I misread you.
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2009, 10:09:13 PM »
I'm not doing it in Preferences, but selecting it from the dialogue when I hit Export Multiple. I'm not running the absolutely latest Audacity - 1.3.6 - but pretty close. It's not a huge deal as I don't usually work with 24-bit files in my workflow (these are from another taper), so as long as the FLAC export works fine, I'll live with it. Thanks :)
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2009, 12:24:09 PM »
I'm not doing it in Preferences, but selecting it from the dialogue when I hit Export Multiple. I'm not running the absolutely latest Audacity - 1.3.6 - but pretty close. It's not a huge deal as I don't usually work with 24-bit files in my workflow (these are from another taper), so as long as the FLAC export works fine, I'll live with it. Thanks :)

Oh, yep, you'll have to change it back and forth in the preferences if you want to avoid the flac output.  I'm not yet running a flac output version, but I'd actually prefer that, so maybe it's time for me to download the latest Audacity.   :)
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2009, 10:09:13 PM »
if you are using audacity export to 16/44 first
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Re: Wav splitting on a Mac?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2010, 01:14:22 PM »
instead of starting a new thread i thought this might be a good one to resurrect...i posted this in team osx not long ago but didn't get much feedback.
anyway, found this recently:
http://feeds.gawker.com/~r/lifehacker/full/~3/xK3Vqu7Viv0/winebottler-turns-windows-programs-into-standalone-os-x-applications

i figure some clever nerdy type out there could figure out how to "bottle" cd wave editor into a standalone osx ap with this utility.  i tried it but didn't know what i was doing and thus didn't get very far.  anyone wanna give it a try?
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