Topic: Just tried out these bad boys

[whitenite]

Just acquired the Sennheiser MKH-800s.  Used these with the mini-me for crows and mayer the other night.  i have the rev-A mme model which is set to low gain (no jumpers).  i ran 12 db atten and -3 @ 50 HPF on the mics, had the gain turned all the way down on the mme and still went over.  i was 8th row stack.   i also just got my v3.  i am beginning to wonder if these are just too damn sensitive to even use.  do you think the 20 db input atten on the v3 would help (along with the 12 on the mics)?  

[zhianosatch]

Ouch! That must be some serious output...

[F.O.Bean]

soundz to me like an spl issue, too much pressure levels in there, not that the mic is TOO sensitive, it just cant handle what is being pushed.....and for that show, they shouldnt have gone over......i can see maybe moe. making them hit the spl issue, but not those guyz.....

my 00.02

bean

[nickgregory]

it has very little to do with the band, and more to do with how close you were to the stack in my opinion.  In my experience stack taping, it is a crap shoot how loud it will be in some venues....I have taped stack from 10 ft back, all the way to 25 ft back and gotten distortion at times.  Hit or miss sometimes

[F.O.Bean]

it has very little to do with the band, and more to do with how close you were to the stack in my opinion.  In my experience stack taping, it is a crap shoot how loud it will be in some venues....I have taped stack from 10 ft back, all the way to 25 ft back and gotten distortion at times.  Hit or miss sometimes

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so, theoretically, wouldnt that be spl issues???

[nickgregory]

it has very little to do with the band, and more to do with how close you were to the stack in my opinion.  In my experience stack taping, it is a crap shoot how loud it will be in some venues....I have taped stack from 10 ft back, all the way to 25 ft back and gotten distortion at times.  Hit or miss sometimes

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so, theoretically, wouldnt that be spl issues???

absolutely.....I was just trying to make the point that even when I have seen the same band multiple times in different venues, some nights I could barly hear them through the PA and some nights it would blow my doors off....but yes, I agree with you...definitely spl issues.

[whitenite]

so what is an acceptable SPL typically for a mic?  these can withstand up to 142 dB with preatten.   i suppose the PA was pumping out a lot more...
nissan has a rep for being "loud" with any band.

[whitenite]

not to mention proximity...

[John R]

so what is an acceptable SPL typically for a mic?  these can withstand up to 142 dB with preatten.   i suppose the PA was pumping out a lot more...
nissan has a rep for being "loud" with any band.

more than 142?  hopefully you had ear protection.

jr

[Sean Gallemore]

don't take those bad boys to ministry

[zhianosatch]

Over 142 dB? Even at a Ministry stack, I'd be skeptical.

[zhianosatch]

... of SPL that high, I mean.

[nickgregory]

as bizarre as this sounds...Nissan is one of the loudest amps I have ever been too...It is a strange design in that the lawn is kind of above the seats....like way above....much more than normal.  I think to compensate they run the levels at the top of the stacks (where this guy was probably taping from) alot louder to pump more volume out.  As a result, I learned that whenever I stack tape there, no need to shoot that stand to 17 feet...

Not a sound engineer, but just a guess on my part.

[whitenite]

my stand was at about 14'.  the stacks are mounted pretty high, I suppose for projection based on the design you mentioned.

[F.O.Bean]

it has very little to do with the band, and more to do with how close you were to the stack in my opinion.  In my experience stack taping, it is a crap shoot how loud it will be in some venues....I have taped stack from 10 ft back, all the way to 25 ft back and gotten distortion at times.  Hit or miss sometimes

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so, theoretically, wouldnt that be spl issues???

absolutely.....I was just trying to make the point that even when I have seen the same band multiple times in different venues, some nights I could barly hear them through the PA and some nights it would blow my doors off....but yes, I agree with you...definitely spl issues.

i see what your saying also, def. each venue is different in its own way, and most sound crappy....