Topic: Sony PCM-M10 (Part 3)

[Elana]

How does the PCM-M10 perform without a preamp in front of it?  Either mic in or line in w/ battery box.  I was looking at picking up an R09HR but I just read a thread here where some people stated it produces click noises when you adjust the gain on the unit.  The M10 has got a really long stated battery life, and it's got USB power, which are both pluses (assuming it runs for as long as the specs say).  W/ the B&H price this doesn't sound like a bad option for stealthy stuff.

[groovon]

How does the PCM-M10 perform without a preamp in front of it?  Either mic in or line in w/ battery box.  I was looking at picking up an R09HR but I just read a thread here where some people stated it produces click noises when you adjust the gain on the unit.  The M10 has got a really long stated battery life, and it's got USB power, which are both pluses (assuming it runs for as long as the specs say).  W/ the B&H price this doesn't sound like a bad option for stealthy stuff.

Just get yourself a Sony D-10. Now. You cannot go wrong.

It's the digital reincarnation of the WM-D6C, but even slicker!  8>)

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Just get yourself a Sony D-10. Now. You cannot go wrong.

Is that the DAT version of the M10?

[groovon]

Just get yourself a Sony D-10. Now. You cannot go wrong.

Is that the DAT version of the M10?

umm, yeah!!! that's it  haha!   

er... I guess I meant, 'get yourself an M-10'! 

(or a D6C!!)

[barrettphisher]

Got mine the mail yesterday, can't believe how SMALL it is!  Really user friendly and super easy to use.  Didn't read the instructions, had it up and running in 10 minutes.  If you are on the fence about a small  recorder look no further!
Barrett

[ehren]

Got mine the mail yesterday, can't believe how SMALL it is!  Really user friendly and super easy to use.  Didn't read the instructions, had it up and running in 10 minutes.  If you are on the fence about a small  recorder look no further!
Barrett

...and the a/d sounds kick ass.

[Fatah Ruark (aka MIKE B)]

Maiden voyage on my M10 tonight at Paul McCartney. Very easy to use. Piece of cake to sneak in. It's too bad it sounded like poo where I was sitting.

I'll have the rest of my small recorders in the YS when I get a chance to put everything together.

[Neilyboy]

I need to sell off my last h320 and pickup one of these guys soon...

neil

[gdplusmore]

Maiden voyage on my M10 tonight at Paul McCartney. Very easy to use. Piece of cake to sneak in. It's too bad it sounded like poo where I was sitting.

I'll have the rest of my small recorders in the YS when I get a chance to put everything together.

Did you use the internals  ?

[Carrera2]

Here's something interesting ... don't know if it means anything.

I have forced my new M10 to record across the internal and card memories to examine the file split. I have tried it twice and seen the same result:



Note the scale on the top reflects samples between the two files. It's almost as if there is half a sample (is that possible?) missing in the right channel of the first file. Can't seem to hear it.

Thoughts?

[it-goes-to-eleven]

Thoughts?

The r09 is now better than the m10!!!

That's weird.  Does it happen when it splits on a single card?

[groovon]

Here's something interesting ... don't know if it means anything...

...It's almost as if there is half a sample (is that possible?) missing in the right channel of the first file. Can't seem to hear it.

Thoughts?

"If you're not sure you can hear it, does it matter?" 

[chrise]

It's almost as if there is half a sample (is that possible?)

No such thing as half a sample, no.

But I can't explain what you're seeing.  Is there any way to know if it's the M10, or the software you're using to join and view the waveforms ?

The fact it's looks like half a sample kinda suggests the software may be confused.

[Carrera2]

That's weird.  Does it happen when it splits on a single card?

S*&^. It did happen on a same card split. This time, though, with serious noise just before the split. It's clearly visible, too. I am going to go do this test again. This puppy may be going back! In the first screen shot you can see the noise and the file split occurs at the change in color of the waveform.

The second shot shows the "half sample" again.

Anyone else tested file splits yet?

[it-goes-to-eleven]

It's almost as if there is half a sample (is that possible?)

No such thing as half a sample, no.

It is a semantic argument.  It looks like he has lost one sample from one channel.  In two channel recording, it could be argued that each sample at a given time has a left and right component... and then call each a half sample.  But it is really just semantics.

One gotcha from losing a single sample is it tends to flip the channels.   So, yes, it matters in a big way.   It'll be interesting to know what behavior others observe.

Was the most recent file split glitch on the built-in card?