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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2004, 10:34:01 AM »
cables matter in the big picture, but you've got to have a rig and playback system to back it up.  a lot of people pay no credence to cables, but they are part of the system that nedds to be addressed, eventually.  spend your money on quality components first.

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so john, should i even bother w/ canare/starquad cables by myself.........

i have x-streamz like you do, would i hear a difference, cause i LOVE my am's ;)

put ra's on the xstreams.  i used the canare's i got from daryan this weekend because i have put the ra's on mine yet.  when i do, i'll use the starquads as extensions only, or get rid of them.  then i'll need to get some more xstream for length.

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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2004, 10:42:45 AM »
Anyone able/willing to do a comp of Canare Starquad v. any of the Audio Magic (or other "high end" cables)?  Curious to hear how the Canare's stack up...I'm running out of major gear purchases to make, so cables may be next.   ;D
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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2004, 10:51:24 AM »
if i get to mule next week, i could do 1st/2nd set changeout.

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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2004, 11:13:56 AM »
Anyone able/willing to do a comp of Canare Starquad v. any of the Audio Magic (or other "high end" cables)?  Curious to hear how the Canare's stack up...I'm running out of major gear purchases to make, so cables may be next.   ;D

ive got a solution to this- buy gear for me!  

also, forget buying audio magics for the price, get another set of mics for yourself.  at least mics retain their value (good luck getting close to what you paid for a pair of audio magics)

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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2004, 11:21:55 AM »
ive got a solution to this- buy gear for me!

 :lol: No chance.
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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2004, 11:31:21 AM »
>>also, forget buying audio magics for the price, get another set of mics for yourself.  at least mics retain their value (good luck getting close to what you paid for a pair of audio magics)<<

i say forget the retail price and get them off audiogon for a steal.  that's what i've done.  i've never even paid close to retail for mine.  i think they destroy any other cables for the price though, especially when that price is 50% off :)

(and it's easier to get back what you paid when you paid half price)

note:  i've never used the xstreams f or prestos, so i have no idea how those sound
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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2004, 01:44:17 PM »
i say forget the retail price and get them off audiogon for a steal.

My thoughts, exactly.

BTW, the cables just got here, Scott. Thanks again!

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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2004, 01:53:49 PM »
>> I'm using a $2 cable armen bought from ebay, and I doubt I could hear the difference in a $100 cable<<

what cable?  you probably could

i started off with some no name mic cables.  I eventually got a 15 foot pair of audiomagic excalibur IIs (for hundreds less than they retail for, thanks marc) and ran those for a few shows.  I noticed a difference in low end detail and "oomph".  sold them after a few shows because I bought the 4022s and no longer needed a set of 15 footers.  excalibur IIs are a bit overkill, but i did notice a difference.  i found a killer deal on a pair of sorcerer 1 meter xlrs and ran those for a while between the pre and a/d and again noticed a difference.

but my home playback system is where i noticed the biggest difference in cables.  i got a 1 meter pair of excalibur IIs (i love the audio magic sound) for my dac > amp and again noticed the low end difference right away.  bass was much tighter and seemed to hit harder.  now that i've upgraded the home playback, i have the excalibur II rcas going from the DAC to the pre, and a pair of spellcasters going from the pre to the power amp.  i have another set of excalibur II rcas I may put in between the dvd-a player and the preamp, but I'm not sure yet.  I need to do some listening to determine what I like best, and also run the test to see if my dvd-a player is putting out a full 24/96 signal.  of course, it has to actually arrive for me to test...hehe

sorry bout that scott, I was being a dickwad when I said that.  The only cable I use while recording is the 1/8" trs going from mp-2 > M1.  The mic cable and power modules for the mics are in-line.  Maybe I can use a higher quality cable, but I'd probably just fuck it up while stealthing, and my playback system is total ass right now.
but thanx for taking the time to give that assessment
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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2004, 02:47:50 PM »
it's all good...

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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2004, 09:14:27 AM »
cables matter in the big picture, but you've got to have a rig and playback system to back it up.  a lot of people pay no credence to cables, but they are part of the system that nedds to be addressed, eventually.  spend your money on quality components first.

jr

so john, should i even bother w/ canare/starquad cables by myself.........

i have x-streamz like you do, would i hear a difference, cause i LOVE my am's ;)

put ra's on the xstreams.  i used the canare's i got from daryan this weekend because i have put the ra's on mine yet.  when i do, i'll use the starquads as extensions only, or get rid of them.  then i'll need to get some more xstream for length.

jr

I MIGHT DO THAT ONLY FOR THE MIC END, BUT I MIGHT SELL MY am'S AND GET A PAIR OF PRESTO'S OR EXCALIBURS SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE(DUE TO A SMALLlllllllllllllllllll  cut in one of the mic cables,but if someone would be willing to do it for me, id be down ;)heath??? ;)

ummm, i am gonna make a pair of 15 ft and 25 fit mic cables for the hell of it since i have 40 ft of black and 40ft of green cable ;)

but yeah john, AM's pick up an ooomph i just dont hear in star-quads any other mic cable!!!scott knows what im talkin about :)a clarity that is scik, ya know ;)
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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2004, 09:17:02 AM »
cables matter in the big picture, but you've got to have a rig and playback system to back it up.  a lot of people pay no credence to cables, but they are part of the system that nedds to be addressed, eventually.  spend your money on quality components first.

jr

so john, should i even bother w/ canare/starquad cables by myself.........

i have x-streamz like you do, would i hear a difference, cause i LOVE my am's ;)

 then i'll need to get some more xstream for length.

jr

so john, ya need more length??? :wink2: :wink2:
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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2004, 09:35:30 AM »
I just lined up some AM's.  Can't wait to test em out once i get em.  Bean--I can fix that cable if you like.  Maybe this weekend (sunday).  Let me know!

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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2004, 09:40:25 AM »
I just lined up some AM's.  Can't wait to test em out once i get em.  Bean--I can fix that cable if you like.  Maybe this weekend (sunday).  Let me know!

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i need rt angles dawg, i might place an order soon tho!!!plus i werk sunday :P

but thanks heath, we'll werk out a date or something!!! :-* ;)
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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2004, 09:44:19 AM »
you werk too much   ;)  

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Re:Your opinion -- how much do cables matter?
« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2004, 09:49:07 AM »
you werk too much   ;)  



i know, 1 -2 days a week would be great!!! ;D

i would rather werk 24 hrs in a row sometimes, i could werk 20 hr shifts, well maybe ;)
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