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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2004, 10:46:37 AM »
not throwing stones, and i agree that they are great in the section and fob, but when responding to this q with the very flattest mic response out there, akg doesnt seem to be it.  that doesnt make it a bad company by any means- i love the 480s.  my other comment was that i wish other companies would be as forth coming with their off axis responses as dpa
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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2004, 01:38:14 PM »
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« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2004, 08:41:49 PM »
s_tl - yes, the brauner VM-1 KHE (klaus heyne edition) is superb - i heard part of a film soundtrack session where they used them as the main stereo pair instead of their normal neumann m50s.  very impressive.
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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2004, 08:49:17 PM »
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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2004, 10:59:22 PM »
Quote from: jpschust on April 28, 2004, 09:38:43 AM
I really wish akg would publish the off axis measurements too.  thats better data to look at for our application.

Their polar patterns tell you a little bit.

Somewhere I have a 90ยบ response curve for the CK63 that I got from AKG Austria.  Aha, here it is--stuck in a Word doc and I can't get the image out.  Wait, saved it as HTML and found a GIF in the directory, success!
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« Reply #35 on: May 08, 2004, 08:03:06 PM »
the very best microphones ever are the ones that sound best to your ears.  
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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #36 on: May 08, 2004, 08:24:23 PM »
actually one of the flattest mics is the $2 panasonic element...


So, flat does not necessarily equate to quality sound reproduction... (tho the source follower mod does make it sound pretty good...)

http://www.panasonic.com/industrial/components/pdf/em07_wm60_a_dne.pdf

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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2004, 10:41:48 PM »
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the very best microphones ever are the ones that sound best to your ears.  

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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2004, 11:31:42 AM »
unless your ears are full of wax :-)
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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2004, 06:06:49 PM »
Quote from: jpschust on May 09, 2004, 11:31:42 AM
unless your ears are full of wax :-)

so that's your problem? ;D
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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2004, 08:43:16 PM »
Quote from: MattD on April 25, 2004, 12:35:03 AM
For chamber music, I can't see anything "beating" the DPA 4011/402x. Odds are that you'll often be set up in an ideal spot in an execllent-sounding room and to my ears, there is nothing that captures that sound better.

Except the B&K 4006.  Omni version of the 4011.  The most transparent, accurate, and detailed mic around IMHO.  If you have an ideal chamber setting, or even close to ideal, you will drool with these.
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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2004, 09:53:00 PM »
Ruler flat response does not always equate to the best sound. For chamber music my consistent choice is Schoeps M222/MK21.

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Re:the very best mics?
« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2004, 10:54:44 AM »
sona - my friend out here in oregon is currently trying pairs of schoeps m222s and older m221s, after using DPA 4011s for a couple years.  he also uses manley gold mics, which he loves.  he likes the schoeps, but isnt quite sure he will stick with them - he is trying some different caps now.  my experiences with my schoeps cmc64s indicated that they were indeed very nice for chamber music in the diffuse field, but were quite bottom heavy for near-field applications in the studio where i do most of my work.  for these apps, i find that the DPA 4011s and the akg c480/ck61s are about the best things i have ever run across.  the DPA 4006s i am testing seem similarly better suited for more diffuse field work, but are truly superb mics all the way around.  
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« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2004, 10:49:38 AM »
moke - it depends on the size of the hall.  the more reverberant the hall, the closer the boundary between the free and diffuse fields.  generally, i try to stay just inside that line, or a bit closer.  since i do chamber music ensembles, i am usually at around 12-15ft out from the group.  that way, if the hall is pretty live, i get a good straight sound, and if an audience is present and the hall becomes less live, i can beef it up with a bit of digi-verb during mix.  if i add a pair of ambient mics out inthe hall, i will move the main pair slightly closer in (8-10ft) to get a nice intimate sound while controlling the space with the ambient mics. 
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Re: the very best mics?
« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2004, 02:41:52 PM »
Quote from: Moke on June 10, 2004, 02:35:57 PM
question for jnorman,

I noticed in your pics of the 406x that you posted, that you had the mics mod'd. I also noticed in the pictures that you didn't have the grids on over the capsules.

Do you typically run without the grids?
Why? My guess is that it would be that much more flat in response?

many thanks
I thought about doing this, too - getting rid of the grids altogether...

is there any reason why I should  not try this..?
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