Topic: 60' Split Stack Recording

[MattH]

If anyone is interested to hear what a 60' split can sound like, I tried this out the other day. This is with cards pointing straight ahead in an A-B configuration. Stands are about 20' in front of each stack and 13' high.

16 bit torrent: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=509697

24 bit torrent: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=509706

[Krispy D]

not a big DMB vfan but that is an amazing recording.  very cool.  thank you.

[Tye]

I saw this today and I'm d/l'ing right now 60' milab split  no doubt this should sound great
 how did you run cables without everyone tripping over them?

[MattH]

I ran cable behind the last row of pit seats (row 6) and crossed the two aisles at the step up.

[Tye]

I figured that was the case. Nice Job

[willndmb]

so its one mic on each stack?
or one pair at each mixed?

grabbing the 16 now
thanks

[thegreatgumbino]

so its one mic on each stack?
or one pair at each mixed?

grabbing the 16 now
thanks

One cardiod at each stack.  Sounds great IMO.

[willndmb]

thanks

checked out some reviews of bartender, everyone says its sweet

[stantheman1976]

This sounds great.  From what I've read DMB has a true stereo setup right?  I think a recording like this helps to capture that. 

[Brian Skalinder]

I assume you split the mics because DMB mixes in stereo?

Sounds like a...well, stack recording (but with a stereo twist).    Interesting / odd stereo separation to my ears.  Especially strong pan on the fiddle (L), less so on the bass (R), voice (C), guitar (L?), sax (R), different components of the drum kit (L/R), and crowd (wholly different set of sounds from each channel).  Don't know how much of the instrument separation is my assuredly unbalanced ears, or the recording.  But at any rate, I find it's missing a solid center image that gives context to the stereo panning / imaging.  Not a knock on the recording, necessarily, since I know it's challenging recording DMB - loud crowd, can only raise stands very low in the center, stereo mix leaves a single-side stack recording lower on some instruments than optimal, etc.  Anyway...just what my ears hear.

With every additional listen, I can definitely say I really like the Milab VM4s. 

[MattH]

I didn't want the usual mono sounding stack tape and DMB does run a modest stereo mix now. You don't hear any bleed from one channel to the other so it does sound like no middle summing, more like studio stereo in that sense.

Here's a look at the pit setup spots which were very symetrical.

[muj]

did your cables survive?

[datbrad]

Matt, I listened to it at home on 3 different systems, and in both cars. It sounds excactly as I expected, a clean stack tape, but from each stack. None of the missing sound stage and overly mono sound of a single stack recording. However, this is because I knew what it was as we had discussed it before you ran it and I was already set to listen for certain things. In the living room, my vintage '75 Bose 901s don't have any localized sounds like traditional speakers due to the direct/reflecting design, and the room was filled with sound, like you were at the show. Where you notice the split the most is when there is only audience noise and no music. Once the music kicks in, the split is not as noticable. It actually sounds better than I expected, particularly with the bass response. I think this is something that has needed to be tried for years, and I am glad you did. Great job !

[grayp]

i just started the download.   i can't wait to hear it.

[Brian Skalinder]

I think this is something that has needed to be tried for years, and I am glad you did. Great job !

Kudos for trying something new!