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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2007, 12:25:24 PM »
This just slowed to a crawl.  >:(
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2007, 01:34:49 PM »
Good work guys.  Thanks for capturing Mr. Barnes.  Wish I'd known you were all going.  Could have thrown you on the list.   ;)

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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2007, 01:15:47 AM »
This sounds fantastic.  The 24bit recording is really alive on my system.  I was wondering how this was cabled and I'm glad I found this post after grabbing the show on dreaming.  One further question (and this comes from a total noob): Why did you record at 2.8 and not at 5.6?  Would 5.6 have been complete overkill?

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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2007, 09:04:36 AM »
This sounds fantastic.  The 24bit recording is really alive on my system.  I was wondering how this was cabled and I'm glad I found this post after grabbing the show on dreaming.  One further question (and this comes from a total noob): Why did you record at 2.8 and not at 5.6?  Would 5.6 have been complete overkill?

I have recently concluded that 5.6MHz dsd is overkill for PA taping in the sense that it only captures frequencies between 100k and 200k. 2.8 captures everything from 10-100k. My mics, the Meyer PA and my Meyer playback system top out at about 22k.

I ran 70' of xlr cable on one side and 6' of xlr on the other, plus about 10' of active cables on each mic.
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2007, 10:18:50 AM »
Hey Matt, I like it! It was definitely worth the effort.

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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2007, 10:58:32 AM »
Wow. Its really an interesting tape. I tend to agree with Brian that it lack a strong enough center image, however, its a neat idea for a challenging taping situation. I've never seen DMB, but it seems to give a great approximation of the stereo imaging of the instruments. Good experimenting!

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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2007, 11:05:35 AM »
Hey Matt, have you used the Korg as a stand alone, and if so how do it's pres stack up?
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2007, 11:21:40 AM »
thats a fairly substantial difference in cabling length.
Did you detect any kind of signal arrival offset?

Electrons in a cable travel at a speed on the order of the speed of light, so you would never be able to hear any kind of offset.  Not motivated to do the math right now, but it would be unbelievably small.

A bigger issue might be the effect of greater resistance and especially greater capacitance in the longer cable, since both resistance and capacitance associated with the cable are related to cable length.  The greater capacitance of the longer cable might have noticeable effects on high frequency content for instance.

Cool idea with the taping, if I can remember when I'm home I'll try to download some tracks to listen to (etree blocked at work).
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2007, 11:42:55 AM »
Thanks......I'm downloading it now and will give it a listen later.....T+


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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2007, 11:43:26 AM »
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.  I heard someone at a Pink Floyd show at the Rosemont in '87 bought a whole row of seats just for mic separation.
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2007, 11:54:30 AM »
Hey Matt, have you used the Korg as a stand alone, and if so how do it's pres stack up?

I have a Korg/V2 comp almost fininshed. I think the Korg pre's stack up quite well
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2007, 01:14:21 PM »

but I'm just an obsessed wanker, so,.....


From what I've heard of your recordings, obsessed wanking is working quite well for you.  ;D
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2007, 02:07:55 PM »
Very cool. Thanks for sharing.  I heard someone at a Pink Floyd show at the Rosemont in '87 bought a whole row of seats just for mic separation.

check out Rob Eaton's u87 split tape from Philly 4-21-84 if you haven't heard it

also, when did DMB switch to a stereo mix? That's good to hear
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2007, 02:20:35 PM »
dmb has had a "stereo" mix for a few yrs
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Re: 60' Split Stack Recording
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2007, 02:23:45 PM »
there is also a km150 50' split GD recording (90?) up there someplace on archive.
just search for GD and neumann.

 

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