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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #60 on: February 22, 2009, 12:32:29 PM »
"the Avenger" D230 - Super Clamp Grip Head

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/124734-REG/Avenger_D230_Super_Clamp_Grip_Head.html

I'm thinking of trying one of these to clamp from an overhead light bar. The clamp is a little pricey, but should allow me to fabricate an extention bar on the cheap (parts list = a 5' length of pipe, a 3/8" bolt, 2-part epoxy & some black spray paint).

Rather than using pipe you might consider aluminum tubing, You can get it at almost any hardware store. Much lighter weight. You might also consider drilling a couple of holes where you epoxy the bolt in so that the epoxy have a better grip on the tubing. If you go with tubing you might wedge a short piece of dowel rod in the end that gets clamped so that it doesn't crush.

Or you could use PVC.  I use 1/2" sch-80.  Sch-80 is dark grey instead of white.

Dark gray PVC pipe is usually electrical conduit. Its not as susceptible to ultraviolet light. I would think 5' if run horizontally would tend to bend. Good stuff for projects though.
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #61 on: February 22, 2009, 05:53:36 PM »


Dark gray PVC pipe is usually electrical conduit. Its not as susceptible to ultraviolet light. I would think 5' if run horizontally would tend to bend. Good stuff for projects though.

The lighter gray is electrical conduit, but sch-80 is thicker walled and more ridgid PVC which is a darker grey.  But 1/2" would probably bend you're right
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #62 on: February 23, 2009, 04:51:03 PM »
"the Avenger" D230 - Super Clamp Grip Head

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/124734-REG/Avenger_D230_Super_Clamp_Grip_Head.html

I'm thinking of trying one of these to clamp from an overhead light bar. The clamp is a little pricey, but should allow me to fabricate an extention bar on the cheap (parts list = a 5' length of pipe, a 3/8" bolt, 2-part epoxy & some black spray paint).

I own one of these. Nice clamp, but really HEAVY! You definitely need a safety cable if you use this puppy.
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #63 on: February 23, 2009, 05:35:41 PM »
"the Avenger" D230 - Super Clamp Grip Head

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/124734-REG/Avenger_D230_Super_Clamp_Grip_Head.html

I'm thinking of trying one of these to clamp from an overhead light bar. The clamp is a little pricey, but should allow me to fabricate an extention bar on the cheap (parts list = a 5' length of pipe, a 3/8" bolt, 2-part epoxy & some black spray paint).

I own one of these. Nice clamp, but really HEAVY! You definitely need a safety cable if you use this puppy.


I will take you up on the safety cable advice, a sensible investment for sure. Nice work on those articulating rigs BTW, very impressive ...+T's all around (if i could). The "Avenger" clamp is probably better suited for situations more like what I'm looking at, where I hope to drop straight down from an overhead bar. I have some metal electrical conduit laying around I might experiment with for the drop-down ...comes in 1/2" dia, it's light and rigid but also easy to work with. I can 'peen' the ends with a chisel prior to setting the epoxy, this will hopefully secure the bolt from twisting or slipping out on me.
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2009, 10:57:05 AM »
http://www.adorama.com/GTBHMWQR.html?sid=123549078234555
if you have some extra cash, not cheap. but does a great job of helping level out a tbar from the balcony
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #65 on: February 24, 2009, 01:06:31 PM »

I own one of these. Nice clamp, but really HEAVY! You definitely need a safety cable if you use this puppy.


I will take you up on the safety cable advice, a sensible investment for sure.

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There are others, just search Google for "lighting safety cable."
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #66 on: February 15, 2010, 08:39:06 PM »



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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #67 on: February 17, 2010, 01:45:01 PM »

I own one of these. Nice clamp, but really HEAVY! You definitely need a safety cable if you use this puppy.


I will take you up on the safety cable advice, a sensible investment for sure.

http://www.peaktrading.com/productpages/default.aspx?ProductPageId=1658

There are others, just search Google for "lighting safety cable."
i have always wondered if people did this
seems like the smart thing for sure
hook one on the tbar/mics/shocks and another on the extension/rail
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #68 on: February 17, 2010, 01:58:55 PM »
I use the safety cable when balcony clamping but I also use gaffer tape to tape over every connection (kwonbar to clamp, clamp to rapid adapter, rapid adapter to extension pole, pole to clamp, etc.) just to make sure there is virtually zero possibility of something dropping onto a concertgoer's head (and hence ending clamping at that venue). 

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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #69 on: February 19, 2010, 04:38:55 PM »
I use the safety cable when balcony clamping but I also use gaffer tape to tape over every connection (kwonbar to clamp, clamp to rapid adapter, rapid adapter to extension pole, pole to clamp, etc.) just to make sure there is virtually zero possibility of something dropping onto a concertgoer's head (and hence ending clamping at that venue).

I'm always paranoid about that when I clamp.

I've got one "lighting safety cable", and then some biners and climbing rope (6mm ice line) with figure8 knots that I use to connect to the shock mount end when I use my arm. I havn't picked up the 3 or 4 small cables that would be needed to make it seamless.
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #70 on: February 19, 2010, 06:20:12 PM »
Fishing leader would make good small safety cables. Its light and strong.
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #71 on: February 19, 2010, 06:35:10 PM »
And you can reel in a whopper of a recording.

We use lots of heavy-test monofilament as lanyards for stuff attached to boat equipment so you can't drop parts in the water.  The clear plastic line doesn't scratch up the gear. Make end loops with nicro-press crimp sleeves and attach latching clips or carbiners to one or both loops. 
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #72 on: January 15, 2011, 04:37:05 AM »
Is those vertical slats round or rectangular?

If rectangular, I would use something like shown below, which will get you out a few inches.  Standard clamp from the hardware store with a 3/8" hole drilled through it.
If round, bogan super clamp, or windtech C-clamp, without any other extensions.

I wouldn't worry too much about going out and down.  I would try to clamp as low as I conveniently could on that bar, and between the t-bar and your shock mounts, this will get you a little below toe level.



For times like that, you need the wood screw that comes w/ the Rowi 73 and 103. Then you clamp onto it and run from any wood fixtures that are already beat up. like the pic you have of that beat up wooden post thats prob DFC ;) I have used my wood screw a few times and it works PERFECTLY for places that dont mind a small hole in their establishment ;D
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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #73 on: January 15, 2011, 09:00:18 PM »
i would wrap each mic in a towel and slip it in between the columns.  i used to do that i long time ago.  now i use lav mics.

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Re: Help With Balcony Clamping
« Reply #74 on: January 15, 2011, 09:06:02 PM »
Heres a cheap clamp I just bought

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