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Audioroot femto + Upre
« on: January 19, 2013, 08:30:36 PM »
Interesting. Virtually no info available. Femto looks sweet though.

http://www.audioroot.fr/shop/preamplis-micro-7/femto-43013.html
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 10:02:30 PM »
that does look pretty sweet! any word on how they sound?
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 10:39:58 PM »
It better be sweet for the price

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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2013, 11:56:22 AM »
The femto had a price yesterday but now it's gone, I think it was under 600,00€. Femto looks like just an updated version of the UPre. I researched the UPre and found a couple location sound houses in France renting them but none for sale.
I'm really curious how these sound.
I'm going to email audioroot and inquire about the Femto. I'll post here whatever I find out.
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2013, 06:16:41 PM »
600,00€, What!!!!! Why? i could see that if it was also a two channel mixer.
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2013, 01:06:44 AM »
"The FEMTO will be available in late february 2013"

They probably removed the price because you can't purchase it yet.  I think it was 560 EURO's.

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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2013, 12:33:29 PM »
Heard back from Antoine at audioroot. First couple units have gone into production. Like his website says he plans to have tech specs and price available by the end of next month.  He did say the femto will be less expensive than the upre, but cost still undetermined. I'm curious too hear how this French made preamp sounds. I like the specs of the upre just not the price hoping the femto will be more reasonable.
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2013, 09:44:04 AM »
Hey now,
I was contacted by audioroot and the femto preamp is now available. Web page has been updated with more info. Price $645 USD and that includes shipping to US or Canada.
Who wants to be the Guinee pig??
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2013, 10:30:27 AM »
Hey now,
I was contacted by audioroot and the femto preamp is now available. Web page has been updated with more info. Price $645 USD and that includes shipping to US or Canada.
Who wants to be the Guinee pig??

I asked audioroot if the femto used input or output transformers in the design since their previous model, Upre, has input transformers. Since the femto has XLR input and runs on 2x9v their simply wasn't room. I'm probably going to pick one up and see how it performs.
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2013, 10:39:31 PM »
Hmmm.  Kind of looks like a Little Box with more elaborate metering and slightly better cosmetics, and at twice the price.
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2013, 12:19:48 AM »
Oh god.  Now I need to think about a metric conversion for naming conventions. :P. I actually didn't really look at the size, mostly the layout.  I suppose it is a mid priced unit in the scheme of things.  Less expensive than a V3 or a USBPre2 (but with no ADC) and more expensive than a Tiny Box or a CA9200.
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2013, 02:19:59 PM »
Oh god.  Now I need to think about a metric conversion for naming conventions. :P. I actually didn't really look at the size, mostly the layout.  I suppose it is a mid priced unit in the scheme of things.  Less expensive than a V3 or a USBPre2 (but with no ADC) and more expensive than a Tiny Box or a CA9200.

This is more geared towards the ENG market and the price/specs and build design reflect that. I think its appropriately priced. Certainly not cheap but cost about what a sound devices mp2 did. Every preamp has its own flavor and I guess until someone tries it for what we do, we will never know if it worth it's price:-)

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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2013, 05:18:45 PM »
It does have enough gain to drive ribbons and dynamic mics.  Actually, you are right.  $645 for two channels of high gain, low noise preamp is pretty decent.  One channel of a typical 500 format preamp generally runs about that or more.  Interesting.  It is very cool that people design and manufacture this kind of stuff for our niche market.  I am interested to hear a real word review.  Lord knows I don't own enough preamps. ;D
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2013, 06:35:21 PM »
Which is, of course, why everyone and his brother has jumped into the 500 format business.  Used to be there was just API and Aphex, and that was it.  John Hardy was modular, but not 500 form.  Now, I've lost count of the number of different manufacturers and models out there, with no end in sight.  I've got five of them, bought pretty early on, but haven't seen the need to buy more.  In addition, IMHO, the audible difference between many of them is negligible, despite advertising claims.  That said, if you have AC power access and the space, it is nice to have a full lunchbox of good pres to use for your front end if you are rolling open.  I do find the Femto, Church Audio and Little Box/Tiny Box gear very attractive because they are small and self contained.  Even less to schlep around and cart to a gig.  While there may be different design priorities at work with them, there seems to be no material down side if you take those into account when matching gear to the venue and artist.  Certainly the "studio" market is a bigger pond that the location recording/tapir market, but it is a lot more crowded too.  I'm glad you and Chris can make this niche market work for you.
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Re: Audioroot femto + Upre
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2013, 09:54:26 PM »
Hah!  True that.  Especially these days.  The number of truly commercial studios has shrunk significantly.  As a hobbyist who has spent stupid money on gear, just because I can, it is interesting to watch the current recording market dynamics.  Outside of a drum room, most local musicians I know either record at home or at a home studio operated by another musician.  I loan out a lot of my gear to friends for their recording projects, simply because I have a much better day job and can afford gear to which they wouldn't otherwise have access.  I don't charge for it, it's my small contribution to the local music scene since I have more gear than talent myself.  So, as you so perceptively note,  cost isn't really a driving factor for me or them in choosing gear.  I certainly don't look at it from an ROI perspective.
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Pres: API, a-designs, pendulum, purple, millennia TD-1 and HV-32P, gt, littlebox, tinybox, usbpre2, CA 9200, pipsqueak, grace V2, DAV BG1
Cables: KCY, CMR, Naiant AKG actives, PFAs, asst.  GAKables and Darktrain
Recorders/converters/monitors: dr680, m10, dr-2d, d50, zoom f8 & F8n pro, 788T SSD CL-8, lynx aurora 8, Neumann KH20


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