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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2017, 12:14:42 AM »
As much as I dig (and support) all of the "local TS" gear makers and all of the gear that they produce...  I can't imagine any professional recording engineer trusting a "new-ish" piece of gear that is not manufactured by a professional source. 
A hobby is a hobby...  but a job is a job.
For the love of music, thankfully CM is a "taper" too!
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I dunno man. I think the Shure mount I bought from B&H will be just fine.
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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2017, 01:08:39 AM »
^That's what I'm sayin.......  Shure has been around for decades.  Schoeps A20's have been around for decades.
3D printed mounts are pretty new and who knows the longevity of em at this point??
I'm not knockin the 3D mounts.  I'm just guessing that in the professional world they aren't proven yet. 
I'm slightly unsure of them and I'm just a hobby-tapin' yahoo.
I haven't tried em, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about since everyone on board here seems to love em...  and they do seem pretty cool. 
Anyways..  happy XY'n to ya!
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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2017, 11:35:05 AM »
^That's what I'm sayin.......  Shure has been around for decades.  Schoeps A20's have been around for decades.
3D printed mounts are pretty new and who knows the longevity of em at this point??
I'm not knockin the 3D mounts.  I'm just guessing that in the professional world they aren't proven yet. 
I'm slightly unsure of them and I'm just a hobby-tapin' yahoo.
I haven't tried em, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about since everyone on board here seems to love em...  and they do seem pretty cool. 
Anyways..  happy XY'n to ya!

You could make an argument in the other direction too, that 3D printing is the future. Scott could makes all sorts of mounts that would be impossible to come by without 3D printing. My only issue with them is that if I am unsure of what I want to use at a show (lets say you have no experience at a venue and don't know how to approach things until you get in), I have to potentially carry several different mounts...

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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2017, 12:49:21 PM »
As much as I dig (and support) all of the "local TS" gear makers and all of the gear that they produce...  I can't imagine any professional recording engineer trusting a "new-ish" piece of gear that is not manufactured by a professional source. 
A hobby is a hobby...  but a job is a job.
For the love of music, thankfully CM is a "taper" too!
:headphones:

I bought three of the 3D clips for my KM 184s a while ago, NOS, DIN/XY and ORTF. Two are broken, I stored them in plastic tupperware containers in my bag and when I used them I was always very careful. Both the NOS and ORTF clips sagged from the weight of the mic eventually both broke. I still use my DIN/XY clip because it's very convenient, however I would not recommend them to a professional. Maybe they are stronger now because I really want them to work and I really like the idea, but I'd stick with the Shure if I were Charlie.
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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2017, 07:47:10 PM »
The Shure mount arrived. I don't see the weight being an issue I need to do some minor adjustments but it'll be fine.
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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2017, 08:32:42 PM »
The Shure mount arrived. I don't see the weight being an issue I need to do some minor adjustments but it'll be fine.

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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2017, 09:26:58 PM »
Can anyone recommend back up shockmounts for full body Schoeps?
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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2017, 09:44:14 PM »
I use a20 knockoffs with oem cradles cost about 30/ea.

Ran my 4Vs XY for the first time onstage at Winstons on.Tues sounds real nice...

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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2017, 10:02:15 PM »
I use a20 knockoffs with oem cradles cost about 30/ea.

Ran my 4Vs XY for the first time onstage at Winstons on.Tues sounds real nice...



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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2017, 09:30:32 AM »
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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2017, 10:07:37 AM »
^That's what I'm sayin.......  Shure has been around for decades.  Schoeps A20's have been around for decades.
3D printed mounts are pretty new and who knows the longevity of em at this point??
I'm not knockin the 3D mounts.  I'm just guessing that in the professional world they aren't proven yet. 
I'm slightly unsure of them and I'm just a hobby-tapin' yahoo.
I haven't tried em, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about since everyone on board here seems to love em...  and they do seem pretty cool. 
Anyways..  happy XY'n to ya!

You could make an argument in the other direction too, that 3D printing is the future. Scott could makes all sorts of mounts that would be impossible to come by without 3D printing. My only issue with them is that if I am unsure of what I want to use at a show (lets say you have no experience at a venue and don't know how to approach things until you get in), I have to potentially carry several different mounts...

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The numerous 3D printed stereo bars that I've purchased from Scott are extremely rugged and although I haven't run over any of them with a dump truck to test their durability I would recommend them to any professional recordist in a heartbeat. 

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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2017, 10:59:25 AM »
Can anyone recommend back up shockmounts for full body Schoeps?

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I second this recommendation!

If the vertical post on the SRS XY bar is long enough you could combine that with a single one of the Rycote shockmounts referenced.

Thirded!  I don't know anyone who has tried a Rycote INV and gone back to anything else.  The lyres are indestructible and the performance is so much better than the A20 or any other elastic shocks.  I used to think the Rycotes were expensive until I used them.  (They're still way cheaper than the Schoeps mounts though.)
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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2017, 05:40:30 PM »
I received the XY mount today. It's very nicely made. Perfect fit for the mics, my only concern is the mount isn't threaded making it impossible to put on my stand. Am I missing something?
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Re: Need XY Set Up (Schoeps)
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2017, 05:42:17 PM »
I received the XY mount today. It's very nicely made. Perfect fit for the mics, my only concern is the mount isn't threaded making it impossible to put on my stand. Am I missing something?

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