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Nak 300 cables
« on: November 01, 2017, 09:50:35 AM »
Another Nak thread :really_sucks:

Been searching around, and I haven't seen this addressed anywhere. Ran my old Nak 300's a few time with regular XLR cables into a two XLR>1/8" male cable into channels 3-4 on the DR60. Levels were so low it wasn't funny.

Picked up some new 300's in the YS and I'm going to run them with the DR70. This got me thinking: the original cable that came with these terminates into a 1/4' phone plug, which I believe that the DR70 will also accept. I know they originally came with this connector because they were designed to plug into a mixer or tape deck, but is there any advantage to running a cable like this into a modern recorder? Balanced vs. unbalanced or anything like that? Any insight is appreciated.
Mics: ADK A51s; AT4041; Superlux S502; CK91 active w/homebrew BB; AT853; Naiant X-X; Nak 300's
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Re: Nak 300 cables
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2017, 09:58:15 AM »
"the original cable that came with these terminates into a 1/4' phone plug, which I believe that the DR70 will also accept."

I use a set of the original Nak CM series XLR>1/4 cables plugged into channels 1 & 2 on both my DR-70 and DR-60D all the time and have had no issues.

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Re: Nak 300 cables
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 10:14:55 AM »
"the original cable that came with these terminates into a 1/4' phone plug, which I believe that the DR70 will also accept."

I use a set of the original Nak CM series XLR>1/4 cables plugged into channels 1 & 2 on both my DR-70 and DR-60D all the time and have had no issues.

But is there any advantage? Do you get a stronger signal or anything that you would just using regular XLR cables?
Mics: ADK A51s; AT4041; Superlux S502; CK91 active w/homebrew BB; AT853; Naiant X-X; Nak 300's
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Re: Nak 300 cables
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2017, 10:21:29 AM »
"the original cable that came with these terminates into a 1/4' phone plug, which I believe that the DR70 will also accept."

I use a set of the original Nak CM series XLR>1/4 cables plugged into channels 1 & 2 on both my DR-70 and DR-60D all the time and have had no issues.

But is there any advantage? Do you get a stronger signal or anything that you would just using regular XLR cables?
I get a signal that's plenty strong using the XLR>1/4 OEM cables and typically run those channels on the recorders Low Input setting, but I have not really done any comparison with running straight XLRs.

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Re: Nak 300 cables
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2017, 10:59:59 AM »
Thanks Billydee. Now I need to decide if I should run the shotguns. Old movie theater that holds about 1000 (which includes an expansion off to the side). I would be far enough back that I'm stack taping, but always had good results just using cards
Mics: ADK A51s; AT4041; Superlux S502; CK91 active w/homebrew BB; AT853; Naiant X-X; Nak 300's
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Re: Nak 300 cables
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2017, 11:02:39 AM »
Another Nak thread :really_sucks:

Been searching around, and I haven't seen this addressed anywhere. Ran my old Nak 300's a few time with regular XLR cables into a two XLR>1/8" male cable into channels 3-4 on the DR60. Levels were so low it wasn't funny.

Picked up some new 300's in the YS and I'm going to run them with the DR70. This got me thinking: the original cable that came with these terminates into a 1/4' phone plug, which I believe that the DR70 will also accept. I know they originally came with this connector because they were designed to plug into a mixer or tape deck, but is there any advantage to running a cable like this into a modern recorder? Balanced vs. unbalanced or anything like that? Any insight is appreciated.

Make sure the NAK 300 built-in attenuator isn't engaged...that might explain your low levels.

Most of us have run the 300s with balanced cables forever with no issues...I run the TEAC ME-120s with the DR-70D to good effect.
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Re: Nak 300 cables
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2017, 11:14:54 AM »
Another Nak thread :really_sucks:

Been searching around, and I haven't seen this addressed anywhere. Ran my old Nak 300's a few time with regular XLR cables into a two XLR>1/8" male cable into channels 3-4 on the DR60. Levels were so low it wasn't funny.

Picked up some new 300's in the YS and I'm going to run them with the DR70. This got me thinking: the original cable that came with these terminates into a 1/4' phone plug, which I believe that the DR70 will also accept. I know they originally came with this connector because they were designed to plug into a mixer or tape deck, but is there any advantage to running a cable like this into a modern recorder? Balanced vs. unbalanced or anything like that? Any insight is appreciated.

Make sure the NAK 300 built-in attenuator isn't engaged...that might explain your low levels.

Most of us have run the 300s with balanced cables forever with no issues...I run the TEAC ME-120s with the DR-70D to good effect.

Yeah, the attenuators are off. Also a 6db difference between the two, and it's not the caps, something about the bodies. I figure they are going to be good candidates for the chop and mod one of these days. I wonder if my low level issue is related to the XLR>1/8" cable....although I use it for board patches all the time.

Anyone know of a good place for a good test and tune up? I know about Sank, anyone else?
Mics: ADK A51s; AT4041; Superlux S502; CK91 active w/homebrew BB; AT853; Naiant X-X; Nak 300's
Recorders: M10; DR-60D; DR-70D

 

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