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Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
« on: November 08, 2017, 03:46:59 PM »
I pretty much don't go to concert anymore except for my kid who's in the HS Winds Ensemble and Jazz Band.  I used a Zoom H4n Pro the other night to record his jazz concert.  Internals.  There is a kid a grade below him who is very talented and played an amazing solo improv that just blew us away.  Of course his dad was sitting next to me and wanted a copy of the show.  He received it and wanted to know more about the recorder--I guess to record his son himself.  FWIW, I think the recording turned out very good.

I was wondering how does one go about reading specs to see how noisy a recorder can be?  Is there anyway to record something and view it in Audacity that would show how noisy or not the recorder is?
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Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2017, 10:20:43 AM »
The H4N is fairly noisy from what I can see
EIN gives an idea of Pre-amp noise.

EIN Numbers (I found different sites with slightly different numbers in some cases but this gives an idea. The SDs are more like ~129)

PCM-M10              -122dB
SD7XX                 -133dB
Zoom F8              -127dB
Tascam DR-680    -127dB
Zoom H6              -120dB
Zoom H4N            -107dB

http://wildtronics.com/recorderguide.html
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Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2017, 10:23:56 AM »
Didn't they advertise they improved the pre-amps with the H4N Pro? As opposed to the original H4N
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Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2017, 10:35:45 AM »
Didn't they advertise they improved the pre-amps with the H4N Pro? As opposed to the original H4N

Looks like you are correct,

H4N Pro -120dB
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Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2017, 01:57:32 AM »
The H6 has better preamps

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Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2017, 07:05:40 PM »
Tascam DR-680    -127dB

That is for the mk2, I wonder how is the DR680 mk1 ?

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Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2017, 07:13:34 PM »
Tascam DR-680    -127dB

That is for the mk2, I wonder how is the DR680 mk1 ?

http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm

The same according to this
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Re: Zoom H4n Pro--Noisy?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2017, 09:16:31 PM »
Tascam DR-680    -127dB

That is for the mk2, I wonder how is the DR680 mk1 ?

http://www.avisoft.com/recordertests.htm

The same according to this
That is with the gain in High, which is not the usual setting. Most concerts are likely recorded on Low.
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