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Nelle B:
I am going to be recording a high school musical performance for a friend in a few weeks. I got an old edirol r-09, and I have yet to use it. I would like to minimize audience coughs, talking, breathing, etc. in my live recordings, so what settings should I put on my recorder (the back side switches on the device)? However I don't want this to take away any quality from the actual performances, though. I also don't want volume limiter problems when the performance gets louder (when the recording's volume decreases due to overload). I want a steady volume throughout the recording, without feedback or limiter problems.

From reading the manual, I have put the device settings like this: Low-Cut switch is on, ACG is off, and mic gain is low.

Thanks

Gutbucket:

--- Quote from: Nelle B on May 03, 2018, 03:02:10 PM ---I would like to minimize audience coughs, talking, breathing, etc. in my live recordings, so what settings should I put on my recorder (the back side switches on the device)?
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No setting on the recorder can help you with that, other than the <stop> and <power-off> buttons.


--- Quote ---From reading the manual, I have put the device settings like this: Low-Cut switch is on, ACG is off, and mic gain is low.
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Low-cut off
ACG off
Mic gain depends on the sensitivity of your microphones and SPL at the recording position (typically set to low)

If using the internal mics (best not to, they aren't very good) I don't think the high/low mic gain setting has any effect, but I can't recall.  In that case only the mic gain applied via the buttons on the side will matter in that regard.  To make a recording using the internal mics which has somewhat better channel separation, imaging and spatial impression, rig up some kind of baffle between the mics, with the recorder sandwiched by the baffle and the mics exposed on either side of it.  A piece of cardboard folded into a wedge shape works.

Nelle B:
Yes, I will just be using the internal mics.

So if there is no setting that helps minimize audience noise, then what exactly is the low-cut switch used for? Same with the ACG and mic gain switch?

I read some older posts about Edirol R-09 settings on this forum and others have said they use these settings.

Gutbucket:
The low cut helps remove some of the wind rumble noise outdoors, but also chops off all the low bass content from what you are trying to record at the same time.  The resulting recording will sound thin and weak.  It doesn't even really remove all the wind noise completely, just the worst of it.  It can sometimes be used to cut bass from obscene over-driven subwoofer content, but is not the most appropriate tool for doing that.  And that won't be a problem for what you are recording anyway.

You won't find anyone here ever recommending the use of ACG.  And you almost never want to use the low-cut on the recorder.  It's always better to do that afterwards if necessary, but you won't need to do so for what you are recording.

I think the mic-gain switch only effects signal through the mic-input jack, but could be mistaken.  Here's more detail if it does control gain when using the internal mics-

Put the recorder in record/pause and adjust gain while clapping loudly using the buttons on the side to get good levels just under clipping.  If the side-button controlled gain is anywhere around the middle of the total adjustable gain range, you're good.. 

If you need to set the side-button adjustable gain to less than 13 to get acceptable levels, set the gain-switch is set to low and go no lower than 10, regardless of the clipping indicator light.  If you need to set the side-button adjustable gain to the highest part of the adjustable range (I forget how high the numbers go) to get acceptable levels, set gain-switch is set to high and dial in as much gain using the side-buttons as you need.

If all voices are amplified through the PA, get in-line with a PA speaker and not too far away from it where the sound is as clear as possible.  If only some content is through the PA, and some is unamplified, sit as close to the stage as you can, but where the PA still sounds clear.  If there are small speakers across the front of the stage facing the audience, sit in the front row directly in front of one of those.

Gutbucket:
Make sure the recorder has a direct line of sight from the microphones to the sound sources without anything blocking the sound path.

Oh, and welcome to Taperssection, BTW!

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