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My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« on: July 28, 2017, 09:16:23 AM »
https://www.shapeways.com/product/W5BGSBPST/hybrid-schoeps-nbobs?li=shareProduct
Newest Bar, meant for OTS PAS taping with 60° angles. 21cm for the mk41v and 30cm for the mk22 (Stereophonic zoom used to match Cardioids in DIN Recording angle, with the different capsules and angles). This bar can accommodate big windscreens for outdoor use. 

https://www.shapeways.com/product/WLTJKUU2H/din-nos-combo-mount?optionId=60523604
DIN/NOS Combo Mount for Schoeps with NBob active cables. Upper pair (20cm) for side-address capsules. Lower pair (30cm @ 90°) for end-address capsules.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/MPPBSUT26/ms-xy-schoeps-with-nbob-actives?optionId=60409239
X/Y or M/S for Schoeps vertical capsules.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/DQ3TZRTAK/hybrid-schoeps-w-n-bob-actives?optionId=60996905
Mounts for 3 Pairs of Schoeps. Outside pair: 70 degrees 35 cm (for the mk22, essentially the same Recording angle as Cards NOS, but modified using the stereophonic zoom for narrower angle and the mk22), plus two vertical pairs, at 30 cm
and 20 cm. This bar is for indoors only, and can not accommodate big windscreens for outdoor use.
Recording:
Capsules: Schoeps mk41v (x2), mk22 (x2), mk3 (x2), mk21 & mk8
Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, GAKables 10' & 20' 6-channel snakes, Darktrain 2 & 4 channel KCY and mini xlr extensions:
Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 10:31:06 AM »

Nice bars Noah!  I think that I'm going to pick up the newest bar that you posted for my mk22's & mk4V's.
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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 10:33:29 AM »

Nice bars Noah!  I think that I'm going to pick up the newest bar that you posted for my mk22's & mk4V's.

That bar was designed for the mk41v but would likely work with the 4v as well.

I'm going to run mk22 and mk41v pairs on that bar along with a mk4v/mk8 M/S rig on Sunday at Phish
Recording:
Capsules: Schoeps mk41v (x2), mk22 (x2), mk3 (x2), mk21 & mk8
Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, GAKables 10' & 20' 6-channel snakes, Darktrain 2 & 4 channel KCY and mini xlr extensions:
Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre6 I, Sony PCM m10

Home Playback: Mac Mini> Mytek Brooklyn+> McIntosh MC162> Eminent Tech LFT-16; Musical Fidelity xCan v2> Hifiman HE-4XX / Beyerdynamic DT880

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2017, 11:04:00 AM »
The bars that Scott is creating are truly awesome. I currently have him working on a Kangol mount that looks like it is going to be pretty cool.

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2017, 03:03:11 PM »

https://www.shapeways.com/product/MPPBSUT26/ms-xy-schoeps-with-nbob-actives?optionId=60409239
X/Y or M/S for Schoeps vertical capsules.


The M/S clip looks really cool.  Do you know the size of the clips for nBobs?  I use two AKG M90 active cables with CK94 figure 8 caps for MS/Blumline.  They look very similar, and have a 12mm clip.  Would this fit?  or do you do custom orders to make one that does? 

Also, are those just small clips back to back with 20mm clip, then just a 20mm post (three pieces)?  If so, I can see these being used in my double M/S rig where I want to use a back-to-back clip onto the AKG's 19mm body (facing backwards). 

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2017, 11:05:09 AM »

Nice bars Noah!  I think that I'm going to pick up the newest bar that you posted for my mk22's & mk4V's.

That bar was designed for the mk41v but would likely work with the 4v as well.

I'm going to run mk22 and mk41v pairs on that bar along with a mk4v/mk8 M/S rig on Sunday at Phish

Yes, I saw that you had the bar constructed for mk41v's but it should also be effective for the mk4v's that I run.

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2017, 12:53:51 PM »

I'm going to run mk22 and mk41v pairs on that bar along with a mk4v/mk8 M/S rig on Sunday at Phish

It will be interesting to hear the mk4v/mk8 M/S rig in action.  Have a good time this evening!
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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2017, 03:34:22 PM »
The bars that Scott is creating are truly awesome. I currently have him working on a Kangol mount that looks like it is going to be pretty cool.

Could you please remember to post that when it's done? Or if there's a place to buy one now, I'd love a link...
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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2017, 12:28:17 PM »

I'm going to run mk22 and mk41v pairs on that bar along with a mk4v/mk8 M/S rig on Sunday at Phish

It will be interesting to hear the mk4v/mk8 M/S rig in action.  Have a good time this evening!


Noah did you decide to run the mk4v/mk8 M/S rig at a future show?

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2017, 12:47:19 PM »

I'm going to run mk22 and mk41v pairs on that bar along with a mk4v/mk8 M/S rig on Sunday at Phish

It will be interesting to hear the mk4v/mk8 M/S rig in action.  Have a good time this evening!


Noah did you decide to run the mk4v/mk8 M/S rig at a future show?

I ran the 4v pair again last night. The bar was heavy enough and I didn't feel like doing an extra clamp and mount for m/s. Sorry
Recording:
Capsules: Schoeps mk41v (x2), mk22 (x2), mk3 (x2), mk21 & mk8
Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, GAKables 10' & 20' 6-channel snakes, Darktrain 2 & 4 channel KCY and mini xlr extensions:
Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre6 I, Sony PCM m10

Home Playback: Mac Mini> Mytek Brooklyn+> McIntosh MC162> Eminent Tech LFT-16; Musical Fidelity xCan v2> Hifiman HE-4XX / Beyerdynamic DT880

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2017, 01:54:49 PM »
The bars that Scott is creating are truly awesome. I currently have him working on a Kangol mount that looks like it is going to be pretty cool.

Could you please remember to post that when it's done? Or if there's a place to buy one now, I'd love a link...
Yes, Scott is sending me his second prototype to review. Once we have it finalized I will let everyone know.

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2017, 12:32:17 PM »

I'm going to run mk22 and mk41v pairs on that bar along with a mk4v/mk8 M/S rig on Sunday at Phish

It will be interesting to hear the mk4v/mk8 M/S rig in action.  Have a good time this evening!


Noah did you decide to run the mk4v/mk8 M/S rig at a future show?

I ran the 4v pair again last night. The bar was heavy enough and I didn't feel like doing an extra clamp and mount for m/s. Sorry

Thanks Noah!  I understand completely.  Do you have any recordings posted using your mk4v/mk8 M/S rig?  I'd love to hear how that setup sounds.

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2017, 03:48:39 PM »
Here's the [3] SRS 4 Channel Mounts that I have too! I HIGHLY recommend these to ANYONE who wants to run 2+ Channels and do it very lightweight ;) ALL of my capsules are VERTICALLY ALIGNED, and because of that, I can easily mix the multi mic configs for a 4 Channel Matrix, IF the tapes came out good enough :)

DINa/DIN
https://www.shapeways.com/product/J5WZFJ324/dina-din-combo?optionId=60350415

DINa/ORTF
https://www.shapeways.com/product/EARVGAFW3/dina-ortf-combo?li=shareProduct

DINa/NOS
https://www.shapeways.com/product/DU5BBY7BA/dina-nos-combo?optionId=60421670

And Noah, thanks for all of your hard work @MSG ;) ;D
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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2017, 08:05:21 AM »
Bean:

I really encourage you to experiment with narrower angles and wider spacings. Your bars are all 110 or 90 degrees, which work great for FOB on on stage, but from the OTS, there's too little direct sound compared with too much reflected sound and crowd noise.

Here's the [3] SRS 4 Channel Mounts that I have too! I HIGHLY recommend these to ANYONE who wants to run 2+ Channels and do it very lightweight ;) ALL of my capsules are VERTICALLY ALIGNED, and because of that, I can easily mix the multi mic configs for a 4 Channel Matrix, IF the tapes came out good enough :)

DINa/DIN
https://www.shapeways.com/product/J5WZFJ324/dina-din-combo?optionId=60350415

DINa/ORTF
https://www.shapeways.com/product/EARVGAFW3/dina-ortf-combo?li=shareProduct

DINa/NOS
https://www.shapeways.com/product/DU5BBY7BA/dina-nos-combo?optionId=60421670

And Noah, thanks for all of your hard work @MSG ;) ;D
Recording:
Capsules: Schoeps mk41v (x2), mk22 (x2), mk3 (x2), mk21 & mk8
Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, GAKables 10' & 20' 6-channel snakes, Darktrain 2 & 4 channel KCY and mini xlr extensions:
Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre6 I, Sony PCM m10

Home Playback: Mac Mini> Mytek Brooklyn+> McIntosh MC162> Eminent Tech LFT-16; Musical Fidelity xCan v2> Hifiman HE-4XX / Beyerdynamic DT880

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2017, 10:07:42 PM »

Nice bars Noah!  I think that I'm going to pick up the newest bar that you posted for my mk22's & mk4V's.

That bar was designed for the mk41v but would likely work with the 4v as well.

I'm going to run mk22 and mk41v pairs on that bar along with a mk4v/mk8 M/S rig on Sunday at Phish

Yes, I saw that you had the bar constructed for mk41v's but it should also be effective for the mk4v's that I run.

 :coolguy:

I used the mk4v in this mount along with the mk22. Check them out:

mk22 16bit: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=594985
mk22 24bit: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=595004

mk4v 16bit: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=595006
mk4v 24bit: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=595005
Recording:
Capsules: Schoeps mk41v (x2), mk22 (x2), mk3 (x2), mk21 & mk8
Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, GAKables 10' & 20' 6-channel snakes, Darktrain 2 & 4 channel KCY and mini xlr extensions:
Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre6 I, Sony PCM m10

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2017, 11:02:47 AM »
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Thanks Noah!  Looking forward to listening to these.

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2017, 07:00:45 PM »
I have a shure a53m shock mount for my Schoeps cmc64s ORTF SRS bar, but it sags and I don't really like it.  What are other good options for attaching the shapeway bars to mic stands?

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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2017, 07:07:39 PM »
I have a shure a53m shock mount for my Schoeps cmc64s ORTF SRS bar, but it sags and I don't really like it.  What are other good options for attaching the shapeway bars to mic stands?

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2017, 07:36:10 PM »
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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2017, 03:19:36 PM »
I saw a couple of different Kangol mounts on Scott's Shapeway's store. But I'm a bit confused. They are for MK41V and point backwards. At least, that's what it looks like to me. I have MK4's, but would love to try a mounted set up like Scott has. I'll probably have to contact him, but was wondering if anyone else had any experience with the Kangol mounts and MK4's. Thanks!
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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #20 on: December 14, 2017, 04:05:57 PM »
I could use some recommendations, please, about which Rycote mount to pair with a SRS ORTF mount for full body schoeps.  https://www.shapeways.com/product/JM6H5M98P/hybrid-schoeps-cmc622?optionId=56179322&li=marketplace

This one?  https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880280-REG/Rycote_041118_INV_8_Microphone_Suspension.html?sts=pi

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #21 on: December 14, 2017, 04:11:49 PM »
Yes please keep it coming. If you have any pics of your set up I’m happy to share with others. I just turned Laura Hartmann onto this site and she is now as fascinated with this topic as I’ve become. Thank you all. Great info!!

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #22 on: December 14, 2017, 05:00:50 PM »
I could use some recommendations, please, about which Rycote mount to pair with a SRS ORTF mount for full body schoeps.  https://www.shapeways.com/product/JM6H5M98P/hybrid-schoeps-cmc622?optionId=56179322&li=marketplace

This one?  https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/880280-REG/Rycote_041118_INV_8_Microphone_Suspension.html?sts=pi

Yes, that's the more solid mount in the right dimensions.  Here's a quick snap of another SRS bar in that mount.  Really no sag or play to speak of. 


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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #23 on: December 14, 2017, 05:36:50 PM »
Yes please keep it coming. If you have any pics of your set up I’m happy to share with others. I just turned Laura Hartmann onto this site and she is now as fascinated with this topic as I’ve become. Thank you all. Great info!!

Hey tapers, the internet is watching....  coming to a town near you.  Don't speak with your mouth open..

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« Reply #24 on: December 14, 2017, 05:38:21 PM »
For those of you that need a reminder..  this is the internet and there are people that are listening, watching, and reading what you post.


This quote was pulled from a "Team Boards" thread:

Anyone doing Chick Corea Electric Band at Catalina's this month?  Im planning on going to one or two shows, not sure.  Ive  >:D there before, not too hard just have to get a real table.

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #25 on: December 14, 2017, 06:03:46 PM »
Yup.....but.....these mounts in this thread are not exactly stealth by any stretch. 
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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #26 on: December 14, 2017, 06:21:28 PM »
Yes please keep it coming. If you have any pics of your set up I’m happy to share with others. I just turned Laura Hartmann onto this site and she is now as fascinated with this topic as I’ve become. Thank you all. Great info!!

Here's a picture of the rig I use at your venue!
Recording:
Capsules: Schoeps mk41v (x2), mk22 (x2), mk3 (x2), mk21 & mk8
Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, GAKables 10' & 20' 6-channel snakes, Darktrain 2 & 4 channel KCY and mini xlr extensions:
Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre6 I, Sony PCM m10

Home Playback: Mac Mini> Mytek Brooklyn+> McIntosh MC162> Eminent Tech LFT-16; Musical Fidelity xCan v2> Hifiman HE-4XX / Beyerdynamic DT880

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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2017, 08:38:05 AM »
I thought  >:D was supposed to stay  >:D?

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2017, 08:52:21 AM »
Yeah, sorry about that. I just remember seeing the mention of the Kangol on the first page and wanted to ask after looking at the shapeways site. I'll just ask him directly.  >:D on.
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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2017, 10:03:51 AM »
Sorry for the misunderstanding.  I was actually referring to Noah's picture of his "rig." 

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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2017, 10:54:13 AM »
No worries. Although this means that I totally missed the meaning of your post. LOL!
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Re: My SRS 3D printed microphone bars
« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2017, 02:29:42 PM »
I thought  >:D was supposed to stay  >:D?

Well, when your gear is as sexy as mine is and you're as much of a slut as I am.....
Recording:
Capsules: Schoeps mk41v (x2), mk22 (x2), mk3 (x2), mk21 & mk8
Cables: 2x nbob KCY, 1 pair nbob actives, GAKables 10' & 20' 6-channel snakes, Darktrain 2 & 4 channel KCY and mini xlr extensions:
Preamps:    Schoeps VMS 02iub, Naiant IPA, Sound Devices Mixpre6 I
Recorders: Sound Devices Mixpre6 I, Sony PCM m10

Home Playback: Mac Mini> Mytek Brooklyn+> McIntosh MC162> Eminent Tech LFT-16; Musical Fidelity xCan v2> Hifiman HE-4XX / Beyerdynamic DT880

Office Playback: iMac> Grace m903> AKG k701 / Hifiman HE-400

 

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