So only like 3 people in this thread crotch a legit cam? Shoot, I'd rather be uncomfortable for a few minutes and film w/ a legit hi definition camcorder than film w/ a digicam. Of course, at some venues, you simply CAN'T film a/ a legit camcorder, cause it's too easy to get busted. And some digicams are great, but none of them (at least regular P+S versions) can touch a legit hi-def camcorder, quality-wise. But most places, you just gotta be ballsy and hope for the best.