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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #315 on: September 05, 2010, 07:11:06 AM »
just making sure here, if i'm running a pre in front of the 661 and i wanna get all my gain from the pre, i should have the 661 dial at 0?

I don't think what you are considering is even possible with this unit. Unlike most recorders with unbalanced -10db consumer level line inputs, the PMD661 has +4db balanced XLR pro line level inputs. That's a 14db difference in gain range. When my Sound Devices MP-1s are maxing output at 17db when the limiters kick in, the gain knob on my 661 is always sitting past "5" or the 12 o'clock position for good levels. I just can't imagine that any preamp could pump enough gain to allow the gain knob on the 661 to sit at zero, just does not seem possible at all to me.
thanks Brad. so do you think the 702 doesn't have +4db pro line level inputs? i always just set it to 0db and pumped all the gain from my psp-3, usually ~35db for a rock show.

The 702's line input can take up to +20dBu, if I recall correctly.  The difference with the PMD-661, I think, is that 0 on the knob doesn't equal 0dB.  Which brings up the fact that I don't think I've ever seen testing on the PMD-661 to find out where "unity" gain is going line-in.


Well my pmd 661 failed me last night.  The recording just stopped after 2 minutes.  I restarted immediately and it did it again...  When I first purchased this recording device they recommended lexar... So bought me a lexar.  The card failed instantly.  Err 2 err8 ect.  So then I switched to transend cards and they  worked for 2 weeks.   So I called Marantz up and once again they recommend lexar.  So I bought another lexar card, but it wasn't very fast.  The card was stable, but I notice a digi pop here and there.  So once again I switched to a lexar 8gb card and it worked great.. So I needed another card and the bought the 16gb lexar and it failed me again...like the first card I bought.  Are these lexar cards crappy?  Should I try another brand?  I had err 2, err 8 and err 10.  Very frustrating to say the least.   Who can recommend a good card for this device that's not lexar.   Sandisk, Kingston, or who?   One thing I know is to test the card out, from beginning to end.    Also how are class 4 cards?   

sorry to hear about your troubles.  I've used a SanDisk and a PNY card since I got the deck, with no troubles with either.  As others have stated, many people are using SanDisk cards, all without trouble.

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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #316 on: September 05, 2010, 09:48:31 AM »
just heard back from Doug. he said when using a pre-amp, set it to XLR line-in and set the knob to 7 as that is unity gain, fwiw.
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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #317 on: September 05, 2010, 10:30:52 AM »
just heard back from Doug. he said when using a pre-amp, set it to XLR line-in and set the knob to 7 as that is unity gain, fwiw.

Good to know, thanks Dennis!

I run my 661 out of the bag, horizontally oriented to set the gain initially, then "lock" the control and gain buttons and then insert it into a bag, large pocket, etc...

Did you get the concert mod from Doug?
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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #318 on: September 05, 2010, 10:34:37 AM »
yep, i got the concert mod. first run will be thursday for TLG. 8)
4. im so abrasive i make sandpaper nervous.

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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #319 on: September 05, 2010, 04:54:47 PM »
yep, i got the concert mod. first run will be thursday for TLG. 8)
Did you get new mics? Saw the ccms fro sale.
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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #320 on: September 05, 2010, 04:58:09 PM »
yep, i got the concert mod. first run will be thursday for TLG. 8)
Did you get new mics? Saw the ccms fro sale.
not yet. i've been borrowing chris' 4028/4023s and i have louie's CMRs for the next week or so.
4. im so abrasive i make sandpaper nervous.

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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #321 on: September 05, 2010, 04:59:09 PM »
Nicey!
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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #322 on: September 05, 2010, 05:06:23 PM »
Speaking of line inputs the Marantz manual lists them as:

LINE 1 -> XLR inputs -> 0 bBu / 4.2 K ohms

LINE 2 -> 1/8" stereo jack -> 500 mV rms / 20 K ohms

It is real easy to forget about the LINE 2 input, but it does have one for anyone using a pre-amp having only consumer level outputs.

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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #323 on: September 05, 2010, 05:21:06 PM »
Who can recommend a good card for this device that's not lexar.   Sandisk, Kingston, or who?   One thing I know is to test the card out, from beginning to end.    Also how are class 4 cards?

I have a few of the 16GB PNY Optima SDHC class 4 cards and haven't had any issues.  Currently $32.99 through Amazon. 

http://www.amazon.com/PNY-Optima-Class-Memory-P-SDHC16G4-EF/dp/B001518O24/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1283721481&sr=1-1
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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #324 on: September 06, 2010, 10:24:33 AM »
Has anyone experianced problems with the SPDIF input of the PMD-661?

I have a Microtrack II that freqently locks up when using the SPDIF input.  A friend of mine also has a Microtrack II and he has the same problem.  I regret buying it! 

So now I'm considering a 661.  Is the SPFIF input reliable?

I did a search but didn't find anything.

Thanks,
Tom

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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #325 on: September 06, 2010, 11:42:16 AM »
Has anyone experianced problems with the SPDIF input of the PMD-661?

I have a Microtrack II that freqently locks up when using the SPDIF input.  A friend of mine also has a Microtrack II and he has the same problem.  I regret buying it! 

So now I'm considering a 661.  Is the SPFIF input reliable?

I did a search but didn't find anything.

Thanks,
Tom

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I have used the SPDIF input probably at least 20 times with the 661- no problems whatsoever.

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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #326 on: September 06, 2010, 12:06:50 PM »
Has anyone experianced problems with the SPDIF input of the PMD-661?

I have a Microtrack II that freqently locks up when using the SPDIF input.  A friend of mine also has a Microtrack II and he has the same problem.  I regret buying it! 

So now I'm considering a 661.  Is the SPFIF input reliable?

I did a search but didn't find anything.

Thanks,
Tom

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I have used the SPDIF input probably at least 20 times with the 661- no problems whatsoever.

I concur.  the S/PDIF input is solid (as is the rest of the deck).  I've used the S/PDIF input at a few shows, and also for tons of DAT transfers.  never any problems.

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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #327 on: September 06, 2010, 02:08:27 PM »
yep, i got the concert mod. first run will be thursday for TLG. 8)
Did you get new mics? Saw the ccms fro sale.
not yet. i've been borrowing chris' 4028/4023s and i have louie's CMRs for the next week or so.
What do you have your eye on for new mics sugar?
Those DPA 4011's in the yard look mighty tasty.
Unless you were aiming for something modular?
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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #328 on: September 06, 2010, 02:30:43 PM »
yep, i got the concert mod. first run will be thursday for TLG. 8)
Did you get new mics? Saw the ccms fro sale.
not yet. i've been borrowing chris' 4028/4023s and i have louie's CMRs for the next week or so.
What do you have your eye on for new mics sugar?
Those DPA 4011's in the yard look mighty tasty.
Unless you were aiming for something modular?

i'll have CMRs soon and will borrow caps until i decide on a new flavor(not 4s)
4. im so abrasive i make sandpaper nervous.

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Re: PT: 2 - New Marantz PMD661
« Reply #329 on: September 06, 2010, 03:06:11 PM »
Whore.
Gonna run a pre?
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FYI, it is a kick ass recording of a bunch of pretend-a-hippies talking.

 

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