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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2009, 02:38:07 PM »
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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2009, 06:30:41 PM »
its been asked already but you didn't answer (at least when I read).  :o

What recorder are you using?
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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2009, 08:18:49 AM »
^ Rasta...he's using an iriver.

Ya know, I was paging through the yard sale yesterday and there are a number of pairs of mics in the YS that decent entry level mics.  I think I saw some core sound binaurals for like $35.  These were my first mics ever and I thought they made some nice recordings.  They won't sound as good as CA-11's but they will get the job done.  You do need a battery box though otherwise they'll distort on you.  I think I saw a Sound Pro's pair for around the same price.  Same thing there.
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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2009, 01:07:35 PM »
These are really cheap and I have heard only the SP-TFB-2, which to me sounded pretty good:

http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-SPSM-15
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-TFB-2

I use the Church cards in a croakie mount and for my venue, opera, they sound very, very good.  The TFB-2 may work for you eith a cheap battery box and they are stealthy if you need them to be.

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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2009, 09:17:24 AM »
Thanks, I'll wait a little bit and then post the ISO on the CA-11s, and wait what will I get..

rastasean, I wrote it here somewhere, iriver h120. :)

As with the croakie mount.. I don't think that's optimal for me, I'm not the kind of person who could stand still the whole show, without turning his head around. :)

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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2009, 10:27:23 AM »


As with the croakie mount.. I don't think that's optimal for me, I'm not the kind of person who could stand still the whole show, without turning his head around. :)
If you get some cardioid mikes then you have to stay still as long as you can because the sound change if you put the mikes on a hat and you move your head, for example.
Take this into account ;)

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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2009, 10:44:48 AM »


As with the croakie mount.. I don't think that's optimal for me, I'm not the kind of person who could stand still the whole show, without turning his head around. :)
If you get some cardioid mikes then you have to stay still as long as you can because the sound change if you put the mikes on a hat and you move your head, for example.
Take this into account ;)

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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2009, 04:06:43 PM »
I recommend hat mounting unless you're really up front near the PA speakers.  Some have said that the 12 inches or so vertical distance doesn't matter that much, but it can make a difference depending on where you are in the venue.  If there's anyone standing in front of you and their head is between your mics and the sound source, it will affect the sound...which will be a little more muffled than if you get direct sound from the source.  Girls are shorter than you and that means if anyone talks to you, they're speaking directly into your mics.  If they're on your head, they're a little bit farther from the talking, which can make a big difference due to the masking effect (during loud shows anyway).

When I recorded from my hat, if I needed to turn my head or sneeze or cough, I just pulled my hat up off my head and did whatever needed to be done.  Just leave a little bit of slack in you cables.  People are constantly adjusting their hat on their head, so it doesn't look strange at all.

My 2 cents worth.
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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2009, 04:12:00 PM »
Females know to STFU with me when they are at a show with me. Subsequently, not a lot of females go to shows with me if I am running my lo-pro rig. If I run my open rig, they want to put their damn purses under my mic stand like it is some kind of storage depot.

I bring cough drops to help with any noise I could make and hold my sneezes in.
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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2009, 04:17:39 PM »
Females know to STFU with me when they are at a show with me. Subsequently, not a lot of females go to shows with me if I am running my lo-pro rig. If I run my open rig, they want to put their damn purses under my mic stand like it is some kind of storage depot.

I bring cough drops to help with any noise I could make and hold my sneezes in.

LOL.  I'll NEVAH bitch about girls storing things near my mic stand ever again b/c during the second Bonnaroo Phish show three girls asked me if they could keep their clothes by my stand so they could dance naked.  Oddly enough, they were damn good looking taboot!

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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2009, 04:23:17 PM »
^See with me they ditch them under the stand and then leave because I have a no chat rule under the stand.  I can't win.  If they hung out and were just dancing nekkid....yah, I think I would be cool with that, LOL.
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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2009, 06:07:54 PM »
^See with me they ditch them under the stand and then leave because I have a no chat rule under the stand.  I can't win.  If they hung out and were just dancing nekkid....yah, I think I would be cool with that, LOL.

Maybe a sign would help. 

Girls; store your clothing below!

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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2009, 08:21:09 PM »
^ Only if it's clothing they are taking off.  Anyway, we can continue this in the Sewer.
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Re: Mics for beginner?
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2009, 09:47:58 AM »
Just leave a little bit of slack in you cables.  People are constantly adjusting their hat on their head, so it doesn't look strange at all.

My 2 cents worth.

A nice advice would be not to touch/adjust the mikes (unless it's really necessary) during the show, as it gets some pops and clips on the recording..



LOL.  I'll NEVAH bitch about girls storing things near my mic stand ever again b/c during the second Bonnaroo Phish show three girls asked me if they could keep their clothes by my stand so they could dance naked.  Oddly enough, they were damn good looking taboot!
;D

Will stick to open taping with standings right now

 

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