Topic: Josephson, Neumann, Audix or ADK?

[olyrc]

Ok, I am now almost officially without a set of mics.

Options for my next pair are (in order or preference, I think):

1. Josephson c42mp
2. ADK TL
3. Audix M1290 (late addition to the race)
4. Neumann km184

So basically the $700-$1000 range.  I am about the most indecisive f#cker alive.  Anybody have any advice?

[thoman8r]

Ok, I am now almost officially without a set of mics.

Options for my next pair are (in order or preference, I think):

1. Josephson c42mp
2. ADK TL
3. Neumann km184

So basically the $700-$1000 range.  I am about the most indecisive f#cker alive.  Anybody have any advice?

Josephson's absolutely smoke for acoustic guitar, singer songwriter types.  However, IMO they are severely lacking on the low end.  Even my old SR-71s had more bass, I think.

I'd love to have them in my arsenal but I'd never use them as my primary mic.

[Craig T]

TL

[muj]

TL

[olyrc]

Ok, I am now almost officially without a set of mics.

Options for my next pair are (in order or preference, I think):

1. Josephson c42mp
2. ADK TL
3. Neumann km184

So basically the $700-$1000 range.  I am about the most indecisive f#cker alive.  Anybody have any advice?

Josephson's absolutely smoke for acoustic guitar, singer songwriter types.  However, IMO they are severely lacking on the low end.  Even my old SR-71s had more bass, I think.

I'd love to have them in my arsenal but I'd never use them as my primary mic.

I'm torn because I tape about 50% acoustic singer-songwriters and 50% jam/rock.  Love Berryman's Glen Phillips tapes, plus the smaller size is appealing.  Don't know about losing the low end though...

[jpschust]

TL or the Neumanns.  personally the km184 is the only mic in the series of the neumanns i dont like as much as i like the rest of them

[thoman8r]

Ok, I am now almost officially without a set of mics.

Options for my next pair are (in order or preference, I think):

1. Josephson c42mp
2. ADK TL
3. Neumann km184

So basically the $700-$1000 range.  I am about the most indecisive f#cker alive.  Anybody have any advice?

Josephson's absolutely smoke for acoustic guitar, singer songwriter types.  However, IMO they are severely lacking on the low end.  Even my old SR-71s had more bass, I think.

I'd love to have them in my arsenal but I'd never use them as my primary mic.

I'm torn because I tape about 50% acoustic singer-songwriters and 50% jam/rock.  Love Berryman's Glen Phillips tapes, plus the smaller size is appealing.  Don't know about losing the low end though...

Yeah, those glen phillips tapes smoke, but the 50% of the time you tape jam/rock bands you are really going to miss that low end.  You might want to consider a pair of Earthworks SR-77s, even they have a bit more low end than the Josephsons and are also excellent mics for acoustic music.

[nickgregory]

If you are going to be doing open taping....and the profile so to speak of the mics is not an issue, it is tough to argue that the TLs are the best value due to the multi patterns.  That being said, if you are willing to consider other options, I would actually look at the Gefell M300s as well.  You can get them in the same price range as the KM184s and I actually like them better than the Neumans for taping rock shows.  

Just my .02

[BobW]

olyrc-

You are having the nearly same dilema that I have.

I want the performance of the TLs, but in a smaller package, made in a country other than The People's Republic of Tibet Bashers.

I think that the off-axis response of the LDs and the transparency of the TLs  is about to cause me to eat my morals and fly the big guns.

OK, so how do I run a pair of TLs vertical in DIN ? (kidding)
Any pics of ORTF with the TLs?

What would be the best bar to start off with on the TLs?
I anticipate taping near stage in smallish clubs.

[blu666z]

Like I told you before, I think the 184s seem boomy.  Maybe the pmod would help that out.  The Josephson sounded too bright to me but I have only heard a couple tapes.  I think the pmod would be too much on the bright/high end.  Yet to hear a TL tape I didn't like.  Don't know too much about the new mic you added.

-Kevin

[imjustchillin]

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[olyrc]

Schoeps? oops, that wasn't listed  

Man, I don't need more choices!

[Chapper]

If you are going to be doing open taping....and the profile so to speak of the mics is not an issue, it is tough to argue that the TLs are the best value due to the multi patterns.  That being said, if you are willing to consider other options, I would actually look at the Gefell M300s as well.  You can get them in the same price range as the KM184s and I actually like them better than the Neumans for taping rock shows.  

Just my .02

I'm with Nick...you should take a look at the M300's.  
I mostly tape loud metal/punk acts at crappy sounding venues...I like the 184's better than the 300's in this setting (too much low end for my taste).  But for nice sounding rooms and especially outdoor venues, I really like the M300's.  

[BCostigan]

I'd say TLs.   I have never heard the Josephson's thogh.

As for the 184s....probably my least favorite mic that gets used often.  I'd rather listen to an octava or c1000 source over a 184 source but that's my ears.

Nick seems pretty impressed with his 1290HCs.

[Brian]

TL's......you sacrifice size for versatility.  These mics can be used in the field or in the studio.  Plus i think the cardiod caps sound better than the 184s, just my opinion though. go with what your *ears* tell you, but it looks like your *peers* advise you to the TL's

Brian