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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #75 on: December 21, 2015, 08:39:56 PM »
Recorded 4 channels at 24/96 with my 64gb PNY SD Card on 12.18.15 and had another flawless evening with my 70D. I ran an m10 as backup out of my VMS02ib, but didn't need it in the end. Figures the ONE time that I didn't run my m10 as backup[festie this past summer], my 70D choked and I missed a whole days worth of stuff. But that was also with a microSD Card that I had NEVER tested before.

I think the deal with the 70D is having a compatible SD card. Seems like once someone gets a proper SD Card, their problems disappear!
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #76 on: December 21, 2015, 09:11:44 PM »
Here's something to take note of...

Last night my board feed came off the back of a powered speaker that had a mixer built in.

RCA out to 1/8 input 1-2 on the DR-70D...but even with LOW on the TASCAM - feed was a bit too hot - knobs on the threshold of "off"

At set break, I switched to a 1/4 inch adapter on my RCA feed and went in the XLR...much better control of the signal for sure.

It's worth noting that the max input level on the 1/2 stereo input is +10dBV, whereas the max on the XLR combo jacks when set to line is +20dBu (note the different reference).  The difference between those two max levels is quite a bit - you can use this calculator to see exact numbers.
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Analog audio input    
1/L, 2/R, 3/L, 4/R connectors
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  Standard input level    +4dBu
  Maximum input level    +20dBu

1/2 connector    
  Input impedance    10k ohms
  Maximum input level    +10dBV
  Minimum input level    -50dBV

So if that RCA output was putting out significantly hotter levels than you'd expect from a normal consumer-level output, that could explain why you had much better results with the combo jacks.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #77 on: December 21, 2015, 09:40:07 PM »
Recorded 4 channels at 24/96 with my 64gb PNY SD Card on 12.18.15 and had another flawless evening with my 70D. I ran an m10 as backup out of my VMS02ib, but didn't need it in the end. Figures the ONE time that I didn't run my m10 as backup[festie this past summer], my 70D choked and I missed a whole days worth of stuff. But that was also with a microSD Card that I had NEVER tested before.

I think the deal with the 70D is having a compatible SD card. Seems like once someone gets a proper SD Card, their problems disappear!

I think that pretty much sums it up.  For those people who have used incompatible SD cards, the 70D has been frustrating and unreliable.  With a compatible card (be it one tested by Tascam or not), everything seems to be OK.

While it may be annoying, the 70D is particular and/or more demanding with SD card performance.  We may never know why since Tascam is unresponsive, but the fact is you must be careful about what card you're using or you risk running into problems, even at less than 24/96.  Definitely start with the recommended media list, but you may also find untested cards that perform well (such as Bean and some others having good results with some PNY cards).  Just be sure to test such a card very thoroughly over several uses before you use it for a recording you really care about.

Reports of record errors with the 70D are becoming few and far between lately.  That could mean:

1. More people are now using cards on the recommended list (and again, it's fair to note there was no list for a while after release).
2. The 1.12 firmware update somehow improved things.
3. People are using the 70D less often in favor of different recorders, for fear of having a bad recording.
4. Everyone's tired of talking about it / doesn't care anymore. :-X
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #78 on: December 22, 2015, 12:41:01 PM »
Uh, my guess is #3
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #79 on: December 22, 2015, 10:57:46 PM »
Until someone figures out why it's so picky about cards or why one card works and the next one doesnt , what else could be posted?  Its been educational.  I'm going to be much more careful about choosing cards for all my devices.

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #80 on: December 23, 2015, 03:30:17 PM »
Definitely not #2.

Reports of record errors with the 70D are becoming few and far between lately.  That could mean:

1. More people are now using cards on the recommended list (and again, it's fair to note there was no list for a while after release).
2. The 1.12 firmware update somehow improved things.
3. People are using the 70D less often in favor of different recorders, for fear of having a bad recording.
4. Everyone's tired of talking about it / doesn't care anymore. :-X


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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #81 on: December 23, 2015, 03:36:20 PM »
I'm #3.  I have a brand new unit that I have not used yet.  I am almost afraid to update the firmware.  I ordered a PNY elite card and I will go from there once it comes.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #82 on: December 23, 2015, 06:16:06 PM »
I'm #3.  I have a brand new unit that I have not used yet.  I am almost afraid to update the firmware.  I ordered a PNY elite card and I will go from there once it comes.

I'm on the latest firmware and everything is solid.  Many of the people who reported problems were on 1.11, but that was also during the time when a lot of discussion on the whole card issue got going.  So far, no one has reported any problem with 1.12 firmware, but correlation does not equal causation. 

The only thing you're taking a risk on is using an untested card, but it may work out fine.  If I were you, I'd play it safe and get another one that tested OK.  I started using my Transcend card with it simply because that's what I had already when I got the 70D, and at that time there was no tested media list.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #83 on: December 28, 2015, 01:06:28 AM »
I'm #3.  I have a brand new unit that I have not used yet.  I am almost afraid to update the firmware.  I ordered a PNY elite card and I will go from there once it comes.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #84 on: December 28, 2015, 07:53:28 AM »
The PNY Elite cards work in the DR70d!!  I have used mine without issue.  There have been zero reports of errors with these cards.

I'm #3.  I have a brand new unit that I have not used yet.  I am almost afraid to update the firmware.  I ordered a PNY elite card and I will go from there once it comes.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #85 on: December 28, 2015, 08:56:39 AM »
The PNY Elite cards work in the DR70d!!  I have used mine without issue.  There have been zero reports of errors with these cards.

I'm #3.  I have a brand new unit that I have not used yet.  I am almost afraid to update the firmware.  I ordered a PNY elite card and I will go from there once it comes.
wild man. Ordering a card that's not on the list... WHY???

I've owned my DR-70D for exactly 1 year now - and my LEXAR cards worked...until they didn't...about 10 months, maybe 60 sets/shows.

Time will tell...the jury is still out - since the list only appeared in October - its probably too early to tell if the approved cards improve the situation.

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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #86 on: December 28, 2015, 09:40:47 AM »
I have never had an issue with the PNY elite card.
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #87 on: December 28, 2015, 09:54:53 AM »
No issues in how many attempts?
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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #88 on: December 28, 2015, 10:15:39 AM »
No issues in how many attempts?


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Re: Tascam DR-70D 4-channel audio recorder (Part 6)
« Reply #89 on: December 28, 2015, 10:22:04 AM »
Keith - 24/48 or 24/96 or something else?
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