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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2012, 12:14:36 PM »
ok.....well does engaging the ADV switch draw more battery power even if only running at 48k?
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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2012, 06:17:29 PM »
ok.....well does engaging the ADV switch draw more battery power even if only running at 48k?

Anyone have any knowledge about this?
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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2012, 06:40:40 PM »
ok.....well does engaging the ADV switch draw more battery power even if only running at 48k?

Well - you wont be running at 48 if that switch is on - I think that's for 24/96

I doubt it makes any difference power-wise -

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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2012, 07:44:44 PM »
ok.....well does engaging the ADV switch draw more battery power even if only running at 48k?

Well - you wont be running at 48 if that switch is on - I think that's for 24/96

I doubt it makes any difference power-wise -

well, if you're running analog out of the UA-5, you're going analog (from mics) > digital (converted inside the UA-5) > analog (converted back to analog inside the UA-5), and then analog into the M10 (which converts it back to digital).

So, running analog out of the UA-5 is not ideal, because you go through an extra A/D/A step.  in theory, it doesn't matter if the UA-5 is set to 24/48 or 24/96, because either way, it's an analog signal going to the M10, and then whatever setting you choose for the internal A/D converter on the M10 will determine the final recorded format...

so the question is, does the UA-5 A/D/A process sound better at 24/48 or 24/96?  I don't know if it'll use more battery power, but my guess is that if it did, it would be a negligible amount of extra battery power.

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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2012, 09:51:12 PM »
the recording came out phenomenal just had battery issues.  What is the best way to power the UA5 long term, i.e. for 3+ hours non-stop? I am using 9.6v RC batteries that are a few years old currently and they had just been fully charged.
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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2012, 10:32:13 PM »
ok.....well does engaging the ADV switch draw more battery power even if only running at 48k?

Well - you wont be running at 48 if that switch is on - I think that's for 24/96

I doubt it makes any difference power-wise -

well, if you're running analog out of the UA-5, you're going analog (from mics) > digital (converted inside the UA-5) > analog (converted back to analog inside the UA-5), and then analog into the M10 (which converts it back to digital).

So, running analog out of the UA-5 is not ideal, because you go through an extra A/D/A step.  in theory, it doesn't matter if the UA-5 is set to 24/48 or 24/96, because either way, it's an analog signal going to the M10, and then whatever setting you choose for the internal A/D converter on the M10 will determine the final recorded format...

so the question is, does the UA-5 A/D/A process sound better at 24/48 or 24/96?  I don't know if it'll use more battery power, but my guess is that if it did, it would be a negligible amount of extra battery power.
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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2012, 11:51:15 PM »
the recording came out phenomenal just had battery issues.  What is the best way to power the UA5 long term, i.e. for 3+ hours non-stop? I am using 9.6v RC batteries that are a few years old currently and they had just been fully charged.

I use a Li-Ion DVD battery with mine and it is still going after 4+ hours continuously.  Never measured how long it went until it died though.
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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2012, 10:39:20 AM »
thanks gonna post an ISO for a DVD battery/cable
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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2012, 11:01:27 AM »
thanks gonna post an ISO for a DVD battery/cable

DVD batteries are a little hard to come by and getting more expensive than they used to be.  This battery has been getting some pretty good reviews.  I grabbed one, only used it twice so far but seems pretty solid.  Its a little bigger than a DVD battery, but not too significantly.  Might be worth checking out.

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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2012, 12:06:06 PM »
But sending a digi output of the ua5 doesn't yield 24 bit tho, does it?
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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2012, 12:34:11 PM »
But sending a digi output of the ua5 doesn't yield 24 bit tho, does it?

There is probably a lot of erroneous info regarding bit depth and the UA5 on TS.com...somehow - we fooled ourselves into thinking the UA5 could do 16 bit...this turned out to wrong. Not sure how that happened...probably because so few had 24 bit recorders back then?

The UA5 always puts out 24 bits...regardless.

I think the ADV switch is for 24/96 recording.

Others probably have more specific advise...
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Re: UA-5 Question - 24 BIt Question
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2012, 05:30:47 PM »
But sending a digi output of the ua5 doesn't yield 24 bit tho, does it?

I think I was the one who tested this and came to the conclusion that it does.  The ADV switch only allows for 96k sample rate.  The bit depth is at 24 either way.  Here's where I presented my evidence:
http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=86745.msg1171403#msg1171403

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