Topic: Stealth Pre/Phatom/AD

[Brian Skalinder]

I must be looking in the wrong place, because everything I find is right around $850 - $885.

That's the MSRP pricing in effect, actual cost new - at least as of a couple years ago when I saw the same general MSRP numbers - should come in around $650.  But obviously, good values to be had buying used.

[thierryhenry]

Only problem with the FP-24 is that it is not an A/D like the UA-5, which doesn't matter much according to Sanjay, cause he got a pretty good pull from that Wilco show with it. I am gonna go the UA-5 way, and try it out for a little bit, you guys say it can be crotched, we'll see. ha.

[Sanjay]

an A/D would make it perfect, I was curious as to whether it is possible to disable the gain on the a/d-20 and just make it do the a/d.  I love how the meters on the fp-24 are exactly to the clipping point ont he jb3 and the added gain would mess that up.

[pfife]

PS-2 -> ModSbm-1

[Chanher]

PS-2 -> ModSbm-1

do you have to have a loud concert in order to use this combo? Or is there gain on the modsbm-1? if there is gain, how clean is it?

[John Kelly]

an A/D would make it perfect, I was curious as to whether it is possible to disable the gain on the a/d-20 and just make it do the a/d.  I love how the meters on the fp-24 are exactly to the clipping point ont he jb3 and the added gain would mess that up.

That's because I had it properly calibrated.

[tchoub]

I was affraid of that.

And I would need the Dcode® PS-2, not just the regualr PS-2, as the regular just has 1 input? What are the outs on the Dcode® PS-2?

the PS-1A (or Dcode® PS-1A) is a one channel microphone power supply.
the PS-2 (or Dcode® PS-2) is a dual channel microphone power supply.

The PS-2 has 2 xlr outs.

Unfortunately, you won't find a phantom/pre/a-d unit that is as small as you want. But you could use : external preamp (phantom power capable) > sbm-1 , it won't be much larger than PS-2 > AD-20.
Depending on your budget, the type of music you are taping and the "hotness" of your mics, you have different options available for the external preamp (see previous posts). 

[F.O.Bean]

I use the FP-24, rebranded mixpre and just use the AD in the jb3, works pretty well for me. My wilco show using this is in the kickdowns.

i'd recomend either this solution or get the ps-2/ad-20 combo to go into the jb3

either way, it doesnt get much stealthier than those

[pfife]

PS-2 -> ModSbm-1

do you have to have a loud concert in order to use this combo? Or is there gain on the modsbm-1? if there is gain, how clean is it?

Transformers between the PS-2 -> ModSbm-1.   Don't know anything about them, but know that they can be used in that manner... all I know is they add a fixed amount of gain. Unfortunately, the SBM-1 doesn't add gain.

[jkoch]

PS-2 -> ModSbm-1

do you have to have a loud concert in order to use this combo? Or is there gain on the modsbm-1? if there is gain, how clean is it?

Transformers between the PS-2 -> ModSbm-1.   Don't know anything about them, but know that they can be used in that manner... all I know is they add a fixed amount of gain. Unfortunately, the SBM-1 doesn't add gain.

an option could be a stock sbm-1 though. it does have as much gain as you'd probably need.

[ashevillain]

do you have to have a loud concert in order to use this combo? Or is there gain on the modsbm-1? if there is gain, how clean is it?

Louder definitely helps. I ran AT 853 > PS2 > line-in Stock SBM-1 with and without line transformers. Without the transformers I cranked the SBM-1 all the way to 10 and still needed more gain...for these recordings I used the 'change gain' option in Wavelab in order to reach 0dB. When I used the transformers I had plenty of gain...SBM-1 usually somewhere in the neighborhood of 6-8. It has been argued that line transformers provide the cleanest gain possible....I won't say for sure though because I haven't heard every piece of gear.

Unfortunately, the SBM-1 doesn't add gain.

There are some of the ModSBM's out there that have a few dB of gain added to the line input. I think the # was typically 3 or 4dB..

Also FWIW, I would avoid the mic input of the SBM-1 unless those have been modded by Doug Oade.

[ashevillain]

BTW- Chanher, +T for 666 posts. The number of the Beast!

[Chanher]

BTW- Chanher, +T for 666 posts. The number of the Beast!

too creepy for me, I'll think I'll end that right here.

[MATTZS]

Core sounds MIC 2496
Phantom / Pre / A/D
Here

All in a box about the size of the ad20
I like the sound better than the ad20 - ps2 combo

[Brian Skalinder]

Core sounds MIC 2496

I like the sound better than the ad20 - ps2 combo

Even with it truncating from 24- to 16-bits?  The truncation alone would keep me away from the Mic2496.