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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2005, 09:24:19 AM »
kyle, IMO, schoeps>sax is the ONLY combo to run, except maybe schoeps>v3, YMMV

the schoeps>sax phish tapes are my favorite phish tapes ever, just in front of the schoeps t00bes>v3 sound!

Bean, have you heard Schoeps -> m248?  Also sounds damn good!  If I bought schoeps, I'd be trying to find an m248 for sure.

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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2005, 11:36:26 AM »
kyle, IMO, schoeps>sax is the ONLY combo to run, except maybe schoeps>v3, YMMV

the schoeps>sax phish tapes are my favorite phish tapes ever, just in front of the schoeps t00bes>v3 sound!

Bean, have you heard Schoeps -> m248? Also sounds damn good! If I bought schoeps, I'd be trying to find an m248 for sure.

hmmm, i bet i do have a few tapes of those, but i always hated the MG>248 tapes, WAY too bright IMO

the schoeps>248 will have to be heard!
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2005, 03:40:35 PM »
I totally forgot I also ran 4V > Sax (0) > mod SBM-1 (10) > M1 for Panic at the Fox in March of 05. VERY healthy sounding. ;)
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2005, 08:53:17 PM »
kyle, IMO, schoeps>sax is the ONLY combo to run, except maybe schoeps>v3, YMMV

the schoeps>sax phish tapes are my favorite phish tapes ever, just in front of the schoeps t00bes>v3 sound!

Bean, have you heard Schoeps -> m248? Also sounds damn good! If I bought schoeps, I'd be trying to find an m248 for sure.

hmmm, i bet i do have a few tapes of those, but i always hated the MG>248 tapes, WAY too bright IMO

the schoeps>248 will have to be heard!

Bean,

I agree with the Schoeps/Sax combo - Craig Tarazki's (sp?)  Phish CMC641>SX-M2 recordings are excellent
I love my V2 but I have the urge to switch things up a bit...

I used to run (briefly) KM184>M248 but it was weird - if I was in the sweet spot the tapes were excellent, but if not the recording was too bright, fatiguing - I sold it and ended up with the V2

I wish I stlll had it though - would love to try it with the Schoeps
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2005, 11:48:49 PM »
kyle, IMO, schoeps>sax>ad2k would be the ideal combo
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2005, 12:52:21 AM »
kyle, IMO, schoeps>sax>ad2k would be the ideal combo

I am thinking the same thing - gotta start saving

I would like to get the Lemosax - I wonder if they could make one with the 5pin Binder plug and 2 xlrs, instead of the two lemo's.
That would be ideal - an active setup for stealth/lowpro and xlrs for using the bodies in open taping enviroments.
Gotta save some $$ ;D
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2005, 10:07:39 AM »
kyle, IMO, schoeps>sax>ad2k would be the ideal combo

I am thinking the same thing - gotta start saving

I would like to get the Lemosax - I wonder if they could make one with the 5pin Binder plug and 2 xlrs, instead of the two lemo's.
That would be ideal - an active setup for stealth/lowpro and xlrs for using the bodies in open taping enviroments.
Gotta save some $$ ;D

I'm under the (perhaps incorrect) assumption that Sonosax can make them the SXM2 to whatever specifications you need within reason. Not sure what the cost would run, but it'd definitely be worth looking into.
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2005, 12:39:25 PM »
kyle, IMO, schoeps>sax>ad2k would be the ideal combo

I am thinking the same thing - gotta start saving

I would like to get the Lemosax - I wonder if they could make one with the 5pin Binder plug and 2 xlrs, instead of the two lemo's.
That would be ideal - an active setup for stealth/lowpro and xlrs for using the bodies in open taping enviroments.
Gotta save some $$ ;D

I'm under the (perhaps incorrect) assumption that Sonosax can make them the SXM2 to whatever specifications you need within reason. Not sure what the cost would run, but it'd definitely be worth looking into.

Good news, thanks :coolguy:
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2005, 12:45:47 PM »
kyle, IMO, schoeps>sax>ad2k would be the ideal combo

I've ran Schoeps>Sonosax>modSBM1 and found the sound to be a bit too dark, ditto with the couple of Schoeps>Sonosax>MME tapes I downloaded recently.

Any recommendations as far as tapes with an AD2K in the lineage? I'd like to find a good external A/D (so far just using the M1s has been my preference) to run, and the fact the AD2K can do 24 bit is even better.
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2005, 12:59:01 PM »
I've ran Schoeps>Sonosax>modSBM1 and found the sound to be a bit too dark,

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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2005, 07:20:03 PM »
For standard concert recording, what gain setting do you Saxers use? I am guessing the lo setting....
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2005, 07:41:30 PM »
I have it set to lo, but I do think I have to run the sax a little hotter going into the 722 than I did with the SBM-1, maybe because I kept the sbm cranked higher than the 722.

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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2005, 11:44:37 AM »
lo - not sure i've ever needed to run it at hi. doesn't the hi setting start @ 40db gain? i normally don't run more than 30-35 db on the low setting anyway.
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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2005, 06:37:32 PM »
For standard concert recording, what gain setting do you Saxers use? I am guessing the lo setting....

lo gain, set the levels around 12:00 and adjust accordingly depending on your ad unit. for the sbm-1 i set the sax at about 11:00 and sbm at around 5
for the sax> ad-1000, i set the sax at about 1:00 and the ad-1000 wide open, +4

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Re: Sonosax at no gain?
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2005, 08:31:32 PM »
Is the low gain setting the same as no gain if the dials are turned all the way to the left?

 

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