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Spacer for raising mic in XY
« on: February 03, 2011, 07:19:41 PM »
I'm looking for suggestions (hopefully pretty cheap) for raising one of my mics up enough so I can run XY. RIght now, the mics are at the same level so I can't nicely position them in true XY.  I know a lot of people don't record in XY but I bet someone here has to have a cheap solution...
Thanks!
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Re: Spacer for raising mic in XY
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2011, 07:55:32 PM »
Which mics (853's or AT4041SP's) and what stereo bar...

I have toyed around with a E-Street connector Coincident set up for the 853's...have yet to get past the mock up stage...

I love my Shure Vert Bar for the AKG 460's in XY...before that I was scheming with a K&M bar with longer bolts and a bunch of spacers.... 
« Last Edit: February 03, 2011, 07:57:18 PM by Hypnocracy »
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Re: Spacer for raising mic in XY
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 08:03:46 PM »
This is for the 4041s. I'm using that K&M bar as well.
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Re: Spacer for raising mic in XY
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 08:35:11 PM »
I keep going back to this page...

http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts-kws/nylon-spacers

An figured I would go to Lowes and buy a couple of flat head Screws n locking thread Bolts...put one of those nylon spacers between...then the Shure Bar came up in the yard and I quit thinking....

But those items would replace the nut an bolt closest to the middle....one 1/2" spacer on top right side and one 1/2' spacer on bottom left side....thicker spacers if I was gonna use windscreens...
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Re: Spacer for raising mic in XY
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2011, 09:36:39 PM »
I found a quick-release mount a while back which I use as a riser. It has a plastic riser with a push button, and a metal mounting stud that comes unlocked when the button is pushed. I found that there was one problem with it - it was able to rock ever so slightly. A thin paper shim fixed that. Unfortunately, I don't remember the manufacturer or model number.

For my 170s, the riser is just as necessary for ORTF or DIN as it is for XY.
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Re: Spacer for raising mic in XY
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2011, 09:39:42 PM »
I guess when the took MacGyver off the air people lost all their creativity.  With a leatherman and a roll of duct tape you can build damn near anything.

This is what I use... about $1 at the hardware store.  My T-bar happened to have the 3/8" thread on the lower knobs, so I bought a 3/8" coupler nut, which is about 1.5" long.  Then I wrapped some tape around a standard 3/8 bolt and wound it in there and cut it off...  the tape basically fills up the threads so it binds and doesn't come off.  Lock-tite would be the right way to do it if I had some on hand.  I've been using this thing shown in the picture for hundreds of shows.  If your piece doesn't have 3/8" thread, you could still do the same thing, you just need to add a 5/8 > 3/8 adapter on the bottom and a 3/8 to 5/8" adapter on top.  Those are available cheap.

Other creative solutions I have used on occasion.
- if your knob can be unscrewed from the T-bar, unscrew one, and screw it back in from the other side, so you 1 mic above the t-bar and one below the t-bar.
- if you have a spare T-bar, or make one from a piece of flat bar, just bend a big zigzig in it with a vice.
- cut off a piece of dowel or broom handle, drill a hole down the middle... there's your spacer, go get a longer bolt...
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Re: Spacer for raising mic in XY
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2011, 10:08:58 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions guys!
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Re: Spacer for raising mic in XY
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2011, 11:59:03 PM »
I use a 3/8-to5/8 adapter, screwed into a 5/8-to-3/8 adapter - it raises one side a little more than an inch

Google "KM216" and "KM217" and you'll see what I'm talking about
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Re: Spacer for raising mic in XY
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2011, 07:05:32 AM »
I'm looking for suggestions (hopefully pretty cheap) for raising one of my mics up enough so I can run XY. RIght now, the mics are at the same level so I can't nicely position them in true XY.  I know a lot of people don't record in XY but I bet someone here has to have a cheap solution...
Thanks!

This is easy - you just need two K&M thread adaptors - a 5/8" female to 3/8" male and vice versa - screw them together and you get a riser at the cost of a few pence.

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Re: Spacer for raising mic in XY
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2011, 10:16:54 AM »
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